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Re: Updated Prospect Ranks

Postby bigken117 » Fri May 21, 2010 11:27 pm

Zito is God wrote:
bigken117 wrote:
Zito is God wrote:Sadly I agree, this is a horrid list. I OWN Scheppers and would gladly trade him for half the guys you have listed behind him. The list is ok for the first 5 or so spots and after that its pretty bad.


I bet your list from 3 years ago looks horrid as well.


What can I say, not all of us can find an owner to dump an aging Papi on for 2 all stars in their mid 20s...



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Re: Updated Prospect Ranks

Postby Captain Furtah » Sat May 22, 2010 12:46 am

Ok, I'm on the clock and its down to;

Ok, I'm down to Victorino (didn't think he would be there), Carter (i know he is expensive, but he is the top prospect on the list) or one of the pitchers (Arrietta, Kennedy or Medlen)...

Help me out!
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Re: Updated Prospect Ranks

Postby oddmanout7 » Sat May 22, 2010 1:37 am

jswede wrote:
oddmanout7 wrote:The list needs to be tweaked, but I thought for sure I would get better responses than being laughed at.


I think a list like this needs to be done in tiers. I mean, there's nothing objective one can point to in a list of 30 guys of different ages, in different leagues, playing against different competition, none of whom are expected to be at potential within the next couple of years.

This is the reason people say they are 'laughing' - bc they have nothing objective to disagree with. So they throw a dumb comment on it without discussion.


I agree that tiers are preferred. I didn't/don't have the time so i just try to rank them. Its so hard because I can easily move a guy up or down a few spots. Also I think my list is biased towards those in the majors as more data is available on them, and I have also seen them play, where I have only watch some vids on a few of the prospects.

Perhaps you could throw together some tiered ranks?
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Re: Updated Prospect Ranks

Postby oddmanout7 » Sat May 22, 2010 1:42 am

A quick and dirty attempt at putting them in tiers. In order to appease some people I removed those currently in the majors.

1 Stephen Strasburg WAS – SP

2 Mike Stanton FLA – OF
3 Carlos Santana CLE – C
4 Buster Posey SF – C
5 Desmond Jennings TB – OF
6 Jesus Montero NYY – C

7 Jeremy Hellickson TB – SP
8 Pedro Alvarez PIT 3B
9 Domonic Brown PHI – OF
10 Aroldis Chapman CIN – SP
11 Mike Montgomery KC – SP
12 Martin Perez TEX – SP

13 Freddie Freeman ATL – 1B
14 Chris Carter OAK – DH
15 Brett Wallace OAK – 1B
16 Madison Bumgarner SF – SP
17 Andrew Cashner CHC – SP
18 Mike Trout LAA – OF

19 Mike Moustakas KC – 3B
20 Kyle Gibson MIN – SP
21 Lars Anderson BOS – 1B
22 Dustin Ackley SEA – 2B
23 Casey Kelly BOS – SP
24 Michael Pineda SEA – SP
25 Christian Friedrich COL – SP
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Re: Updated Prospect Ranks

Postby buffalobillsrul2002 » Sat May 22, 2010 1:57 am

oddmanout7 wrote:A quick and dirty attempt at putting them in tiers. In order to appease some people I removed those currently in the majors.

1 Stephen Strasburg WAS – SP

2 Mike Stanton FLA – OF
3 Carlos Santana CLE – C
4 Buster Posey SF – C
5 Desmond Jennings TB – OF
6 Jesus Montero NYY – C

7 Jeremy Hellickson TB – SP
8 Pedro Alvarez PIT 3B
9 Domonic Brown PHI – OF
10 Aroldis Chapman CIN – SP
11 Mike Montgomery KC – SP
12 Martin Perez TEX – SP

13 Freddie Freeman ATL – 1B
14 Chris Carter OAK – DH
15 Brett Wallace OAK – 1B
16 Madison Bumgarner SF – SP
17 Andrew Cashner CHC – SP
18 Mike Trout LAA – OF

19 Mike Moustakas KC – 3B
20 Kyle Gibson MIN – SP
21 Lars Anderson BOS – 1B
22 Dustin Ackley SEA – 2B
23 Casey Kelly BOS – SP
24 Michael Pineda SEA – SP
25 Christian Friedrich COL – SP


That's a pretty good list. Tiering's tough; I like that list pretty good though (some squabbles, but that's why we all have our own opinions....)
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Re: Updated Prospect Ranks

Postby mt99808 » Sat May 22, 2010 3:09 am

oddmanout7 wrote:A quick and dirty attempt at putting them in tiers. In order to appease some people I removed those currently in the majors.

1 Stephen Strasburg WAS – SP

2 Mike Stanton FLA – OF
3 Carlos Santana CLE – C
4 Buster Posey SF – C
5 Desmond Jennings TB – OF
6 Jesus Montero NYY – C

7 Jeremy Hellickson TB – SP
8 Pedro Alvarez PIT 3B
9 Domonic Brown PHI – OF
10 Aroldis Chapman CIN – SP
11 Mike Montgomery KC – SP
12 Martin Perez TEX – SP

13 Freddie Freeman ATL – 1B
14 Chris Carter OAK – DH
15 Brett Wallace OAK – 1B
16 Madison Bumgarner SF – SP
17 Andrew Cashner CHC – SP
18 Mike Trout LAA – OF

19 Mike Moustakas KC – 3B
20 Kyle Gibson MIN – SP
21 Lars Anderson BOS – 1B
22 Dustin Ackley SEA – 2B
23 Casey Kelly BOS – SP
24 Michael Pineda SEA – SP
25 Christian Friedrich COL – SP


Much more realistic list. Castro and Davis would have a hard time cracking the top 50 let alone top 10.
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