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Postby bjmacdow » Tue May 11, 2010 1:11 pm

Aaron Hill is killing me at 2nd. Vlad is available on the wavier wire; but can only fit in at utility. It is an 8 team league so all teams are stacked. Here is my team:

C: Joe Mauer-his injury has been painful.
1b: Joey Votto
2b: Aaron Hill
SS: Troy Tulowitzki-his injury is now painful
3b: Evan Longoria
Of: Vernon Wells
Of: Marlon Byrd
Of: Ichiro
Util: Ty Wigginton
BN: Jason Heyward-his injury is also painful
BN: Pablo Sandoval-i expect him to pick up; but he has been riding pine lately
DL: Granderson
DL: Ellsbury

RP: Kevin Gregg
RP: Matt Lindstrom
RP: Jose Valverde
P: Roy Oswalt
P: Matt Cain
P: Colby Lewis
P: Justin Verlander
P: Barry Zito
P: Ricky Romero
P: Jonathan Sanchez

Here is my thought. Aaron Hill is batting .190 and it is painful. I am thinking about dropping Aaron Hill, picking up Vlad Guerrero, moving Ty to full time second base (which I can't believe I am considering) and using Vlad in the Utility Role. I need some help in HR and RBIs anyways. Please leave your thoughts. I am on the fence on this one big time. WHIR, please leave a link. Thanks!
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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby HOOTIE » Tue May 11, 2010 1:12 pm

I'm not a Hill fan, but i would still keep him, and drop Ty for Vlad.
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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby bjmacdow » Tue May 11, 2010 3:31 pm

bump....any other thoughts on the disaster that is Aaron Hill are appreciated. Thanks. WHIR.
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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby Jenken » Tue May 11, 2010 3:34 pm

bjmacdow wrote:bump....any other thoughts on the disaster that is Aaron Hill are appreciated. Thanks. WHIR.

Okay easy now, this guy is a legit second basemen. Sure he's in a funk, but i believe it was in '07 where he began the season hitting .177 and finished the year at .298. This guy will snap out of it and be a valuable guy for your team, jsut have patience. So NO, dont do this.

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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby bjmacdow » Tue May 11, 2010 3:46 pm

Jenken, thank you for the slap in the face. Your reasoning is exactly why I haven't done this yet; but he is hurting my team bad right now and at the same time I don't really want to part with him. Two no's are reason enough for me. I think I will still try to pick up Vlad by dropping Ty Wigginton; but I hate to lose his ability to play 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Vlad is raking so far though and I can use the RBIs. Thoughts on this idea?
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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby Jenken » Tue May 11, 2010 4:03 pm

Well, coming from a jays fan, I can feel your frustration. Hill is just simply not producing. HOWEVER, lately, he has been stinging the ball, and once Lind gets it going, there will be more quality pitches thrown to Hill. I honestly would not even consider dropping hill over Wigginton. Sure Ty can play three spots, but his career stats fail in comparison to Aarons. Plus, Aaron has just recently been removed from the DL, so its only natural that he struggle a bit.

As far as Ty for Vlad, I would do that. You are deep at all of Tys spots, and have Pablo and Heyward on the bench (nice job!). Vlad has raked, and i would expect his numbers to continue to flourish in Texas (barring an injury of course) Ty is also an incredible sell high guy rght now, so if u can turn him into something, u may want to check that, but at the very least, wigginton for vlad is something I would do.

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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby kidsilk » Tue May 11, 2010 4:11 pm

I wouldn't do this. Ty is just on a hot streak that will shortly end and Hill will heat up eventually. He is a top second baseman and will come around. Just have some patience ;-D .

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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby slomojo » Tue May 11, 2010 6:03 pm

I would definitely pick up Vlad, but you can't drop Aaron Hill, regardless of the chances of him bouncing back, just because you can't afford to rely on Wigginton full time.
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Re: Aaron Hill for Vlad Guerrero?

Postby letter18 » Thu May 13, 2010 6:58 pm

Some of the posts in this thread are incredible. You guys are talking up Aaron Hill like he's some sort of indispensable commodity. The facts, however, are as follows:

Ty Wigginton PA: 3553
Aaron Hill PA: 2731

Ty wigginton career OPS+: 105
Aaron Hill career OPS+: 101

Ty Wigginton career BB %: 7.0
Aaron Hill career BB %: 6.9

Ty Wigginton career isolated power: 187
Aaron Hill career isolated power: 149 (and that's AFTER his 35+ hr season last year.)


What have we learned? They are pretty equal, but Wigginton has a bit more power, advantage Wigginton. Bottom line, don't be afraid to part with Hill, he is nothing special. I know he had a great power year last year but you have to be able to look past one good season for a guy who has as many PA as Hill does.
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