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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby RedHopeful » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:22 am

thatguy27 wrote:Bottom line, it appears we are witnessing the birth of two future super stars at a historically talent deficient position. We've become accustomed to the big 3: Mauer, McCann, and VMart. I think beginning next year it will be the big 5, and maybe even big 6 with the inclusion of M. Montero, and perhaps soon after the big 7 when the other Montero makes the leap to the Bigs.

I probably wouldn't group all these guys together on the same tier especially for keepers.
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby mhuhn23 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:58 am

Are people using keepers on this guy?

As of right now in a league that keeps 6, here are mine:

Miguel Cabrera
Hanley Ramirez
Tim Lincecum

Jason Heyward
Andrew McCutchen
Ian Kinsler
Carlos Santana
Tommy Hanson

I've been thinking of trading 2 of Hanson/McCutchen/Kinsler for one more stud and then opening up a slot to keep Santana and hopefully re-draft Hanson next year.
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby mrmarley » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:37 pm

God, I hate seeing this thread, mine's the 9th post in...I hung onto Carlos from Apr 21 until Shapiro said he wasn't close to being called up (around June 4th), then he was called up about a week later. "Damn you Black Dynamite, got me with the ol' pie in the window sill trick yet again."

mhuhn23 wrote:by mrmarley on Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:18 am

Was hoping to wait until early May to stash him in my cafe league, but you forced my hand ;-)

I can't think of too many other call ups (bats at least) that could have as big of an impact this season. You have guys like Smoak, Jennings, Pedro Alvarez and Stanton that could be mid to late season call ups, but they play deeper positions. Looking for Santana to really make a difference at C this year.


'Grats to you guys that have him. ;-D
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby thatguy27 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:41 pm

RedHopeful wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:Bottom line, it appears we are witnessing the birth of two future super stars at a historically talent deficient position. We've become accustomed to the big 3: Mauer, McCann, and VMart. I think beginning next year it will be the big 5, and maybe even big 6 with the inclusion of M. Montero, and perhaps soon after the big 7 when the other Montero makes the leap to the Bigs.

I probably wouldn't group all these guys together on the same tier especially for keepers.


I agree. I'm not necessarily saying they're all in the same tier, and keeper/dynasty leagues certainly change things. I guess my point is that for years there were only 3 catchers worth spending an early draft pick on. But we're seeing an infusion of young talent at the position that will completely change the landscape of the position for, hopefully, years to come.
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby thatguy27 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:42 pm

mrmarley wrote:God, I hate seeing this thread, mine's the 9th post in...I hung onto Carlos from Apr 21 until Shapiro said he wasn't close to being called up (around June 4th), then he was called up about a week later. "Damn you Black Dynamite, got me with the ol' pie in the window sill trick yet again."

mhuhn23 wrote:by mrmarley on Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:18 am

Was hoping to wait until early May to stash him in my cafe league, but you forced my hand ;-)

I can't think of too many other call ups (bats at least) that could have as big of an impact this season. You have guys like Smoak, Jennings, Pedro Alvarez and Stanton that could be mid to late season call ups, but they play deeper positions. Looking for Santana to really make a difference at C this year.


'Grats to you guys that have him. ;-D


That happened to me in one league as well. I feel for ya.
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby GreenMtn! » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:58 pm

If Santana started the season in the majors, he could easily have smashed Ted Williams record # of walks in a rookie season (107 in 1939). Hell, at the pace he's going now, he won't be far off.
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby DaSh 1s » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:53 am

Matthias wrote:
DaSh 1s wrote:
Matthias wrote: But that would mean he'd be a 25 HR, 80 to 90 RBI guy over a full season.


Why is this so crazy to believe? He is the most polished MLB ready bat in the minors right now?

This IS crazy to believe.

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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby StlSluggers » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:09 am

Yeah, we all get it. You said he was gonna be good, and he's producing.

For the sake of the rest of us who don't care, tell them you were right in PM from now on.
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Re: Carlos Santana - CLE

Postby jsphlly » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:33 am

StlSluggers wrote:Yeah, we all get it. You said he was gonna be good, and he's producing.

For the sake of the rest of us who don't care, tell them you were right in PM from now on.



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