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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby lastingsgriller » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:19 pm

Nick Punto is a perennially slow starter that is currently starting slow. ;-7
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby mtxdevil » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:14 pm

da_mane_man wrote:lol the thing that sucks is that all these slow starters and potential buy low candidates seem to be on my teams. :-t


Yea I'm trying to do some sell high buy lows already. Too bad everyone on my team is someone I would buy. :-b
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby coma » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:00 pm

If you take out Teixeira's one good game (3/4, 1 RBI, 2 runs), he is 0/23 with 3 runs and 2 RBIs. :-t
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby mkultra » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:10 pm

urbanbreez wrote:
mkultra wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Also, there is that belief that latin players, especially pitchers, don't get going until the temp goes up.


Please tell me you're making a joke, because that's just some ignorant garbage there.

Alright, so devil's advocate here. Latin countries are general considered to have warm/humid climates. We can agree on that. Now my analogy. The Miami Dolphins are my favorite football team. It's widely known that they play better in warm/hot weather than in the cold and are often given favorable Vegas odds depending on the temperature on game day. They practice when its hot, play home games in the heat and spend most of their time in that climate. Is what Havok said really that ignorant?


Three points:

- I'd argue that all players play better when it's warmer out.
- By your analogy, the division would be similarly along team lines- we'd be talking about slow starts for Toronto, Detroit, and Boston (only one of whom is currently under .500). Houston, meanwhile, has yet to win a game.
- Show. Me. The. Data.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby Havok1517 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:15 pm

urbanbreez wrote:
mkultra wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Also, there is that belief that latin players, especially pitchers, don't get going until the temp goes up.


Please tell me you're making a joke, because that's just some ignorant garbage there.

Alright, so devil's advocate here. Latin countries are general considered to have warm/humid climates. We can agree on that. Now my analogy. The Miami Dolphins are my favorite football team. It's widely known that they play better in warm/hot weather than in the cold and are often given favorable Vegas odds depending on the temperature on game day. They practice when its hot, play home games in the heat and spend most of their time in that climate. Is what Havok said really that ignorant?


I'm not saying I believe it but some people swear by it. I remember Pedro Martinez saying something similar after he got shelled in an early season outing that he pitches better once the weather warms up. I think Carlos Zambrano said something similar as well. Also, after leaving Montreal, one of the reasons Vlad Guerreo signed with the Angels over the Orioles a few years ago was that he enjoyed playing in warmer weather. So, maybe it could be said that some latin players are happier playing in warmer climates and therefore play better. Again, only a theory.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby AussieDodger » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:48 pm

mkultra wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Also, there is that belief that latin players, especially pitchers, don't get going until the temp goes up.


Please tell me you're making a joke, because that's just some ignorant garbage there.


I saw it mentioned somewhere that a favourite of mine, Gio Gonzalez (from Florida originally) has a certain temperature above which his ERA is 2-something, and under is about 7.

Very small sample and coincidence aside, I thought it was interesting. :-?
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby thedude » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:00 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
urbanbreez wrote:
mkultra wrote:
Please tell me you're making a joke, because that's just some ignorant garbage there.

Alright, so devil's advocate here. Latin countries are general considered to have warm/humid climates. We can agree on that. Now my analogy. The Miami Dolphins are my favorite football team. It's widely known that they play better in warm/hot weather than in the cold and are often given favorable Vegas odds depending on the temperature on game day. They practice when its hot, play home games in the heat and spend most of their time in that climate. Is what Havok said really that ignorant?


I'm not saying I believe it but some people swear by it. I remember Pedro Martinez saying something similar after he got shelled in an early season outing that he pitches better once the weather warms up. I think Carlos Zambrano said something similar as well. Also, after leaving Montreal, one of the reasons Vlad Guerreo signed with the Angels over the Orioles a few years ago was that he enjoyed playing in warmer weather. So, maybe it could be said that some latin players are happier playing in warmer climates and therefore play better. Again, only a theory.


I have heard the theory that pitchers are dominant in the cold months (April and September/October) while hitters are better in the warm months.
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