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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby urbanbreez » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:22 am

thejusman1 wrote:Prince Fielder
Adam LaRoche
CC

CC :-?

He had one bad start then almost pitched a no-no. I don't think he qualifies here....yet. :-o
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby biesbol » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:32 am

Verlander
Pedroia (but he's off to a nice start this year).
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby urbanbreez » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:43 am

biesbol wrote:Verlander
Pedroia (but he's off to a nice start this year).


Dear Sir,
I kindly direct your attention to the title of this thread. It's conveniently located at the top of each post and at the top of the page itself.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby RedHopeful » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:21 am

My SP Keepers in 1 league:

Verlander
Lester
Kershaw

:-t

I swear next year they all stay on the bench until I see May!
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby Havok1517 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:26 am

Bruce

Also, there is that belief that latin players, especially pitchers, don't get going until the temp goes up.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby joecahill » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:57 am

urbanbreez wrote:
pmstick wrote:...besides my Jon Lester SP anyone know some guys that don't have great Aprils that I may try and go after this time of year?

As a Lester owning noob, I'd love for you to expand on his perennial slow start reputation. How slow and for how long are you expecting?


According to b-r: Lester is 2-5 career in March/April with a 5.08 ERA, 1.59 WHIP in 79.2 IP (14 G, all starts). After 4/30, Lester is 40-12 with a 3.50 ERA, 1.30 WHIP in 488.1 IP (80 G, 79 GS). Be aware that it's not completely peaches and cream for Lester after April. In May, his career ERA is still 4.40, and his August ERA is actually 4.87. The other three months? Gravy.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby jh2031 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:59 am

urbanbreez wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:Prince Fielder
Adam LaRoche
CC

CC :-?

He had one bad start then almost pitched a no-no. I don't think he qualifies here....yet. :-o


If I remember correctly, CC was pretty bad few years ago in April and is usually a slow starter. He's not in this thread because he had one bad start this year. Look at his history.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby kemper5 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:24 am

Big Teix and Carlos Lee are killing me
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby bazzy_51 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:46 am

urbanbreez wrote:
biesbol wrote:Verlander
Pedroia (but he's off to a nice start this year).


Dear Sir,
I kindly direct your attention to the title of this thread. It's conveniently located at the top of each post and at the top of the page itself.


Why no shaft for Wicked then after the Halladay post? You seem to post the ' Dear Sir, ' ignorance on everyone else that has posted a slow starter, normally, but off to a nice start this year. Look at Halladay since when is he a slow starter? Damn 2-0 with 17Ks this year, 2009- 4-1 32K, 2008- yeah only 2-4 but had 4 CG & 31Ks, 2007- 4-0 33Ks, 2006- 3-1 13Ks, 2005- 4-1 34Ks... Yeah I see where hes such a slow starter.

Heck even counting all the way back to 1998 when he was just coming up April really is one of his better months, 3rd best record, most Ks, 2nd most CG, 2nd best K:BB ratio. So I am really hoping this was a joke, but still no need to reply with arrogance to some and not all, Dear Sir.
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Re: Perennial Slow-Starters That are Slow-Starting

Postby bazzy_51 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:58 am

urbanbreez wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:Prince Fielder
Adam LaRoche
CC

CC :-?

He had one bad start then almost pitched a no-no. I don't think he qualifies here....yet. :-o


And Dear Sir, we meet again. May want to just take a brush past the stats before calling out a wrong thats right.

Check CC's month by month stats, 2009- 1-2 19K:14BB 4.73ERA, 2008- 1-4 26K:14BB 7.76ERA, 2007- 3-0 still recorded a plus side 3ERA, 2006- only had 2.1IP in the whole month of April, 2005- 2-0 but again only 19IP, 2004- 1-0 21IP. So going back to 2001, April is not only one of his weakest record month (just over .500 at 13-12), but this is the month that he throws the least innings (234, compared to an average of 330 in the other 5 months), his ratios all around are the worst or 2nd worst of any month (1.36WHIP, 4.45ERA, 181K/93BB) and as compared to all other months where batters average a .242BAA in April he surrenders a .257BAA 15points higher then average. So trends show that CC's weakest month is, in fact, April, followed close by July (the only month with a below .500 record at 17-23 and 4.61ERA).
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