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Postby EWeaver » Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:50 pm

...leagues."

CBS just wrote that about Alcides Escobar.

Of course, five days ago, the bottom line from them on Escobar was: "He's worth keeping an eye on in mixed formats..."

I know this subject (fantasy "experts" being actual morons, or at least saying moronic things) has been beat to death, and I know there's no room for equivocation in big time fantasy media (or any big time media) because strong, stupid, outlandish opinions apparently sell, but c'mon.

Good for a laugh, at least.

(p.s. i do love escobar).
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Re: "Consider him a No. 1 Fantasy SS immediately in all mixed...

Postby jackie hayes » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:03 pm

Isn't CBS sort of infamous for their fantasy coverage? (I've never read much of it, so I don't know this, just the sense I've gotten from others.)
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Re: "Consider him a No. 1 Fantasy SS immediately in all mixed...

Postby Snakes Gould » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:15 pm

EWeaver wrote:...leagues."

CBS just wrote that about Alcides Escobar.

Of course, five days ago, the bottom line from them on Escobar was: "He's worth keeping an eye on in mixed formats..."

I know this subject (fantasy "experts" being actual morons, or at least saying moronic things) has been beat to death, and I know there's no room for equivocation in big time fantasy media (or any big time media) because strong, stupid, outlandish opinions apparently sell, but c'mon.

Good for a laugh, at least.

(p.s. i do love escobar).


what they're saying is that hes a top 12 shortstop, a number 1 for your team. is that really that crazy considering he was taken at around the 15th overall shortstop?
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Postby Sekrah » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:23 pm

Reading comprehension isn't a strong point among fantasy players.

What CBS said: Consider him a No. 1 Fantasy SS immediately in all mixed...
What CBS didn't say: Consider him the No.1 Fantasy SS immediately in all mixed...
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Re: "Consider him a No. 1 Fantasy SS immediately in all mixed...

Postby EWeaver » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:38 pm

Boys, boys...you work for CBS?

I didn't interpret their statement as he's the #1 SS.

I did interpret their statement as: On the basis of three games, we've gone from from "keep an eye on him" and "expect some bumps along the way" (and apparently a lot of bumps, given the amount that phrase was used), to: "consider him a #1 SS immediately because he's four of 10 over the last three games." Three games!

Three games!!!!

God, they must have loved Chris Shelton in early 2006.
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Postby bazzy_51 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:43 pm

EWeaver wrote:Boys, boys...you work for CBS?

I didn't interpret their statement as he's the #1 SS.

I did interpret their statement as: On the basis of three games, we've gone from from "keep an eye on him" and "expect some bumps along the way" (and apparently a lot of bumps, given the amount that phrase was used), to: "consider him a #1 SS immediately because he's four of 10 over the last three games." Three games!

Three games!!!!

God, they must have loved Chris Shelton in early 2006.


I hear what your saying, don't know what the previous 2 posters were tying to get at, aside from the fact that they completely overlooked the fact that you said
Of course, five days ago, the bottom line from them on Escobar was: "He's worth keeping an eye on in mixed formats..."
... I definitely see what your saying they were doubting him until he swung a decent stick for 3 games then they are alllllllllll abord the train. CBS is junk for fantasy advice in 95% of cases anyways.
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Postby wrveres » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:35 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:what they're saying is that hes a top 12 shortstop, a number 1 for your team.


correct ;-D
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Postby wrveres » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:37 pm

bazzy_51 wrote:CBS is junk for fantasy advice in 95% of cases anyways.

correct ;-D
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Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:34 pm

you have to realize that on sites like cbs, rotoworld, rotowire, etc... there are multiple people writing the player notes so you'll see differing views and inconsistencies all the time.

ive seen FAR worse stuff on cbs before. i love when people show up to my draft with cbssportsline draft sheets printed out. ;-D
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Postby MashinSpuds » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:58 pm

Yeah, the writer should have referenced the previous writer's label of Escobar and just bumped it up a slight notch to something like "consider picking him up in shallower leagues", etc. That was a bit of a stretch to go all the way from wire material to top 12. Gotta have some consistency.

CBS writers do try to keep players updated frequently with game status and do seem to be quick regarding health or demotion/promotion issues, but they do not win much praise for analysis of statistics. Some of them write some pretty bad typos (i.e. MacDougal on the Royals this spring) and they tend to keep the same sentences to describe certain players. For instance, middle relievers are always designated as borderline useless except for leagues that use Holds as a category. Use CBS as a baseline but one needs to do more legwork to get a true feel of how a player is doing.
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