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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby kab21 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:57 am

fantasyfiend wrote:Does anybody play in a league that doesn't have a move max?


Yes
Team 1 - 12 team keeper - uses GS's to limit streaming
Team 2 - 14 team redraft - 50 move max but weekly lineups eliminate streaming
Team 3 - 20 team redraft - uses FAAB ($100 dollars to bid on FA's during season), all FA's are on waivers (which process twice/wk), eliminates streaming from the WW but not the bench
Team 4 - 24 team dynasty - no moves limit. Essentially SP'ers are a weekly lineup decision - you can't sub in a pitcher if the first pitcher has already pitched. Policed manually which isn't ideal.

Personally I think the max moves limit is the least efficient way to control streaming especially in H2H leagues since nothing prevent a team from saving their moves for the playoffs.
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby fantasyfiend » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:11 am

I guess I missed the memo on when streaming became a bad thing. So long as everybody is free to make unlimited moves, and "stream", I don't see the problem.
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:16 am

fantasyfiend wrote:I guess I missed the memo on when streaming became a bad thing. So long as everybody is free to make unlimited moves, and "stream", I don't see the problem.

The problem is that it rewards inferior play and tactics. If a league is cool with that, more power to them. However, streaming is widely regarded as an elementary, weak strategy due to its lack of skill, planning, and tact. Literally anybody can do it, as long as they're sitting at a computer. It takes a lot more work, effort, and skill to actually project and prognosticate, which is where many people draw their enjoyment of the game from.

If it wasn't so widely regarded as a 'bad thing', these leagues wouldn't have efforts in place to prevent such things. I'll get you a copy of the memo.
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby AussieDodger » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:23 am

I've never played in a max moves league before, I think it would drive me nuts. :-S
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby kab21 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:38 am

AussieDodger wrote:I've never played in a max moves league before, I think it would drive me nuts. :-S


I'm pretty active on the waiver wire and I don't find myself exceeding 50 moves anymore. I did my first yr back because a) I inherited a terrible team (and I churned because so many were terrible players) b) I churned about 10 moves due to my craptastic catchers c) I pulled off several 3 for 1 or 4 for 2 trades.

But if your goal is prevent streaming then there are better ways to do it.
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:38 pm

AussieDodger wrote:I've never played in a max moves league before, I think it would drive me nuts. :-S

It would force you to actually...

...

...

... think. O:-)

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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby altmizzle » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:02 pm

I don't play in a league with move restrictions, but I do play in leagues with max games played and innings pitched. I think it helps keep people from going crazy with add/drops, but also gives folks a little freedom to make moves as they deem fit. It's worked pretty well for us so far.
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby AussieDodger » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:00 am

bigh0rt wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:I've never played in a max moves league before, I think it would drive me nuts. :-S

It would force you to actually...

...

...

... think. O:-)

:-b


Bah thinking is for witches and communists :-b :-b :-b
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby swyck » Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:35 am

Merrick65 wrote:The league I commish is 1 move per week. Eliminates streaming and FA-whoring entirely. I recommend.


IMO one move a week is too low. Injuries can hurt your roster and you won't be able to do anything about it with just one move. A minimum max :-? of 2-3 seems more appropriate and gives you some flexibility.

I do agree that for those that don't like streaming or churning you MUST have use a moves limit, either per week or per season. I can't stand listening to complainers about streaming in leagues without max moves. I'm not a believer that streaming players is as much an advantage as some make it out to be, but I know people don't like it. I've played both with both max and no max and I'm fine either way.
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Re: Max Moves, does your league use them?

Postby mojoorising » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:18 am

our commish is a nazi and i had to fight to get it moved from 10 a year to 12
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