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by **sigriffey** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:24 pm

This would be a deal worth considering because I arguably get the two best players in the deal. Thoughts?

GIVE: Carlos Gonzalez, Kyle Blanks, Alcides Escobar and Jorge De La Rosa

GET: Andre Ethier, Austin Jackson, Connor Jackson and Matt Cain

(note: All players could be kept thru 2012, save for Cain, who can be kept thru 2011)

12 Team H2H League with 6 keepers (a * means keeper contract expires after this year)

9 x 9 categories (R, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG -- IP, CG, W, L, ER, ERA, K, SV, WHIP)

MY TEAM:

C Geovany Soto
1B Albert Pujols*
2B Chase Utley*
3B Alex Rodriguez*
SS Jason Bartlett
OF Jason Bay
OF Grady Sizemore
OF Carlos Gonzalez
UT Kyle Blanks
UT Magglio Ordonez
UT James Loney
BN Rajai Davis
BN Carlos Gomez
BN Alcides Escobar

SP Roy Halladay*
SP Zach Greinke
SP CC Sabathia*
SP Chad Billingsley
SP Jorge De La Rosa
SP Ted Lilly
SP Derek Lowe

RP Joakim Soria
RP Jason Frasor
RP Morales

by **Rance Mulliniks** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:27 pm

Now you're beginning to win me over :-)

I don't necessarily agree that you're getting the two best guys in the deal, because I still think CarGo can outperform (or at least equal) Ethier. That said, improving from De La Rosa to Cain makes this much more palatable. I still hesitate a little as I think you're giving up some great upside in CarGo/Blanks/Alcides, especially in a keeper. It's close, though.

by **Green Bastard** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:42 pm

I am very big on Car-Go and Blanks but i like this deal for you as long as it's not a long term league. Great job finding the guy in your league who feeds off Rookie and Sophomore hype and running away with his proven studs. ;-D

Conner Jackson might make a reasonable comeback as well. He won't be a stud, but not an embarrassment either.

Edit: Just saw that it's a keeper league... but the players you are getting are young enough that it doesn't change my opinion.

by **sigriffey** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:44 pm

No keeper can stay out of the draft longer than 3 years ...

ALso, I should note that I might dump Connor Jackson later this month if I do this deal, as I have Lilly due back at some point.

Anyone else? The tough part is I love Car-go, but I do need more HR/RBI... and wouldn't mind Matt Cain as a number 4 starter, followed by Billingsley.

by **Green Bastard** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:13 am

I tried to respond to your PM but I don't think it sent. I'd still do the trade. Carlos Gomez had a nice first game but this is still the guy who was thrown out in one third of his stolen base attempts, and had a 6:1 strikeout rate last season. I'm not buying it. I think he's garbage and I'd would drop him easily.

by **The Artful Dodger** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:21 am

I'd say Ethier is the more secure player than CarGo and I do think DLR has a chance of outproducing Cain. The deal in itself is OK and based on value, you're getting the better end, but it's pretty close.