Ichiro's stock has fallen dramatically. He's basically a one-cat guy (BA). It's possible he'll steal 40+ bags, but he could just as easily steal 25, which is a surprisingly plentiful stat among OF players this year. It's also unlikely he'll get 100 runs this year with the Mariners offense. He hurts you, meanwhile, in HR and RBI.
Lackey's a decent #3 guy, he'll get wins and a sub-4 ERA, but he's not a dominating pitcher anymore, so his K and WHIP stats are not going to be awesome.
Ibanez won't repeat last year, but will give you more HR and RBI than Ichiro. What you give up in SB and AVG can be easily found elsewhere.
Buehrle is basically Lackey with even fewer strikeouts. Nothing flashy, but an amazingly durable innings eater.
I'm not on the Scott Feldman bandwagon like some are, but he could easily turn into a Buehrle-like pitcher (ground-ball pitcher who'll eat innings).
angels7777 wrote:Vetoable or is one manager just an idiot?
10 teams H2H non-keeper 5x5
So one guy trades his 10th, 17th, and 22nd rounders for the other guy's 2nd and 9th rounders?
On pure value alone I think an argument (mkultra) could be made that this trade is not vetoable at all. I am not high on Ichiro at all this year.
The only part that I don't like is that in a ten team league the guy took Ichiro in the second round. So before the season started the manager had Ichiro as one of the top 20 players in all of baseball and now after 7 days Ichiro is just a throwaway late mid round pick.
Was this guy's team auto picked?
I would send an email or post a message just asking why he would be willing to trade his 2nd round pick overall with his 9th round pick overall for what he is getting back. See what he says.
Not a even close to a vetoable deal. Lackey moving to a tougher division, and into a more hitter-friendly ballpark. Ichiro in decline.
One team might get a slight advantage, but honestly you can't say with much certainty even which side that would be. So far, Ibanez and Buehrle have outscored Ichiro and Lackey in my points leagues. That doesn't even consider Feldman.
The rookie owner's biggest problem is taking Ichiro in the second round. Yeah, he is trading his second rounder for a guy that got picked later, but I would chalk that up as him figuring out how poor of a decision drafting Ichiro in the second round was.
angels7777 wrote:same rookie just traded Texeira, Carlos Lee, and Lacky (who he reacquired) for Pablo Sandoval, Cuddyer, and Brian Wilson....
That trade on its on is not close to being veto worthy, but I totally get the frustration with this newbie's overall playing so far. I am not sure what you can do since you don't really seem to have the backing of any other managers in the league (or more necessary the backing of the majority of the managers in the league).
It's funny because I really dislike leagues where no managers are willing to trade but on the other hand I am not a fan of leagues or teams that just trade their players non-stop like this manager seems to be doing, especially when he is making bonehead trades!