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Napoli benched again

Postby peartist » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:50 pm

That's great. I wonder what's going on there. Is his defense really bad enough to justify putting Mathis in for him the first two games?

I believe Jeff Clements just became my starting C.
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby yossarian » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:44 am

I'm getting there myself. What the hell is going on with this situation?
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby urbanbreez » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:53 am

I had him last year, guys. It's sort of his MO so get use to it. When he's in he mashes but you don't always know when that will be.
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby MTUCache » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:15 am

20 HR @ .270 is still a top ten Catcher line, even if he only plays in 110 games.

You can either platoon him and try to catch any time he starts, or you can just leave him in there and figure it's a bonus anytime he plays back-to-back games.

I'm not happy about his playing time, but I'm not too worried about it either. That's always been the deal with Napoli.
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby JRAMI » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:24 am

yeah, when you have Napoli this is the way it is. You have to except this if you draft him. doesnt mean Scoscia isnt a dummy though
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby ajacob24 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:07 pm

@MTUCache - Do you then only carry one catcher, or carry two and sub Napoli out sometimes?
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby MTUCache » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:26 pm

ajacob24 wrote:@MTUCache - Do you then only carry one catcher, or carry two and sub Napoli out sometimes?

I didn't necessarily target him in either my Roto or H2H league this year, but I did end up with him in my Roto league.

In roto, where the gap in the other categories (R/RBI) is more apparent, I'm trying to platoon him and Doumit (both projected for around 400 ABs, not the 550 you'd want) to use up my full 162 games. If I end up with a line that's around 80/25/80/5/.275 over 162 games for these two (however I get there), I'll be extremely pleased. But this is a league where the rest of my lineup isn't going to require too many swaps. I'm pretty safe at all my other spots, so I'm not forced to carry too many guys on my bench. I've got room to speculate on guys coming back from injury, carry Strasburg until he gets called up, etc.

In H2H, I don't know I'd care so much. Sure, you may miss out on 1 or 2 runs per week because he's only playing 3-4 games instead of 5, but it's generally not a smart thing to tie up one of your very precious bench spots with a catcher in a H2H league. I'm not so focused on getting every single AB out of my lineup as I am in roto. I'll gladly sacrifice 100 ABs out of my catcher-spot in order to be able to carry extra specialists to throw in to take/ensure categories come the end of the week.

Not sure how this is going to work out for me this year.
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby ajacob24 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:44 pm

MTUCache wrote:
ajacob24 wrote:@MTUCache - Do you then only carry one catcher, or carry two and sub Napoli out sometimes?

I didn't necessarily target him in either my Roto or H2H league this year, but I did end up with him in my Roto league.

In roto, where the gap in the other categories (R/RBI) is more apparent, I'm trying to platoon him and Doumit (both projected for around 400 ABs, not the 550 you'd want) to use up my full 162 games. If I end up with a line that's around 80/25/80/5/.275 over 162 games for these two (however I get there), I'll be extremely pleased. But this is a league where the rest of my lineup isn't going to require too many swaps. I'm pretty safe at all my other spots, so I'm not forced to carry too many guys on my bench. I've got room to speculate on guys coming back from injury, carry Strasburg until he gets called up, etc.
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I currently have Nap in my roto but am no carrying another catcher. Available FA options includes Pudge, Carlos Ruiz and Rod Barajas. I'm starting to figure I might want to pick up someone else...
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby Cardphan » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:56 pm

I just dropped him in my ROTO league for AJ Piersynski...I just can't have my starting catcher benched in the first two games, thats unacceptable. Even this early I need something from that spot, be it .250 with a R or occasional bomb.
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Re: Napoli benched again

Postby MTUCache » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:07 pm

Cardphan wrote:I just dropped him in my ROTO league for AJ Piersynski...I just can't have my starting catcher benched in the first two games, thats unacceptable. Even this early I need something from that spot, be it .250 with a R or occasional bomb.

I don't see how in a roto league you're going to benefit from this.

A projected Napoli 20/70/70 line over a season is a 20/70/70 line, no matter how many games it's in.
Pierzynski might end up with 15/50/60 line, no matter how many games he plays in.
How is that any better?

Unless you've got ABs or hits as a category, what does it matter if Napoli gets his stats in 110 hits through 400 ABs? AJ might have 140 hits through 500 ABs, but those extra 30 hits (and another 30 on top of that) don't count for anything in a standard 5x5 league. If they're all singles with no run resulting, they don't add to your R total, your RBI total, or your HR total, and the average is still the same.

Counting stats are just that... counting. I understand the frustration about him putting up nothing most days of the week, but how is it any better to be getting zeroes from some other catcher just as many days? When Nap produces, it's at a much higher rate. Just because it's difficult to predict when that production is going to come doesn't make it any less valuable. If you just left him in your C slot the entire year and didn't even look at it, you'd still end up with a better catcher-line than half your league. It's easy to get wrapped up in worrying about his playing time, but if you're constantly plugging in new guys, micro-managing the whole thing, I don't think you're going to get much better results.

You could argue that a .270 average from Nap drags you down much more than the .280 that AJ will get, but when you consider that you're only getting 400 ABs of .270 (rather than the 500 you'll get out of most catchers), it doesn't have that much of an impact.
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