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Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby philaphan » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:49 am

This morning I was offered

HIS: Nolasco/Cain
for
MY: Sabathia

I know CC has struggled this spring and hasn't pitch well in any of his past spring trainings but is this trade worth it? I like Nolasco as a big upside guy. Cain is decent but I feel he might regress slightly this year especially with strike outs.

Should I pull the trigger on this or stand pat? Advice please....100%WHIR

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C:Napoli
1b:Howard
2b:Cano
3b:Zimmerman
SS:Tulo
OF:Bay, C. Lee, Adam Jomes
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BN: McLouth, Prado, A. LaRoche, Rajai Davis
SP: Sabathia, Jimenez
RP: Soria, Soriano
SP/RP: Peavy, Shields,Floyd
BN: Cueto, J. Sanchez, Blanton
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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby tribefan08 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:03 am

if it was roto i'd maybe say yes, but overall you're trading the best player for two players? i never like that type of deal... nolasco SHOULD breakout? and CAIN should probably regress from last year looking at all his peripherals he was over his head.... i dont think you can trade a stud like CC who could possibly win 20 this year for 2 maybes?

PLUS: you have a pretty stacked bench, i know its a 10 teamer, but i'd sit tight.
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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby Bea Arthur » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:11 am

I actually really like this trade for you, but I'm a big Nolasco homer. 2 Top 20 pitchers for a Top 10 pitcher. I think you're ok either way, but I'd probably pull the trigger on that.

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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby johnsa4 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:45 am

I don't like deals where you have the best player and your trading for 2 guys. If it were me id hang on to CC
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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby ROC AllStars » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:47 am

CC is the best player in the deal. If it's a keeper, I would pull the trigger. Nolasco was stellar after his demotion last year, and Cain looks ready to take the next step. But if it's a redraft, I would stick with CC.

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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby drtodddds » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:32 pm

thanks for helping me on my question!
I would stay pat. Keep CC in a head to head...but ya I do like Nolasco! And I did draft him thanks!
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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby JetsFan13 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:37 pm

I think you should keep CC as well.

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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby bazzy_51 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:54 pm

I take this deal for a couple of reasons. One it would then get Blanton of my squad :-D jk, but that would be the player I would cut to do the deal...

1. Your looking at 2 pitchers in Cain and Nolasco that both have the ability to K in the upper 190s and for Nolasco if he puts to together a whole year like the 2nd half last year will EASILY K 210-220.
2. Even with the year Nolasco started out with last year he still managed to win 13 games, AND only Lossed 9 games, when in the 31 games he started he gave up 3 runs or more in more then half of those.
3. Cain figured out quite a bit last year and that sub 3 ERA is stout, and I think very legit.
4. CC, yes ST is ST, but look at the end of last year, he had a few very shaky starts at best, and thats translating into a theme coming into this year.
5. CC is a big time horse, yes he sure is, but how many more years is he going to be able to go for 220+IP, hes already on three straight, and 2 of those are 240+, 2007-241+, 2008-250+ and 2009-230. Hes big and he can handle many innings, but theres going to come a time when those innings will wear on that arm.

Quite frankly I usually say NO to giving up the best player in the deal, but in this case like said earlier you can't go wrong getting 2 top 20 arms for 1 top 10 arm. Plus the upside of Nolasco is crazy, again if he can put together a healthy FULL year of what he did in the second half last year then I don't think 16-18 wins with 210+Ks and an era in the neighborhood of 3.30-3.50 is out of the question. Looking at a line of 17w/210K/3.40ERA/1.18WHIP really isn't that far off of CC's 19w/200K/3.35ERA/1.15WHIP that he threw last year.

I say take the deal, its higher risk, but HUGE reward....
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Re: Offered Nolasco/Cain for Sabathia...100% WHIR

Postby rokka222 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:24 pm

I would take the deal based on the fact that I believe Nolasco will break out and Cain has had success before. Some of the numbers on Sabathia point to him having a weaker season than last year with the exception of wins. Take the quantity. Help me out? viewtopic.php?t=405191
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