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Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby RASportsnut » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:24 pm

My draft is this weekend. H2H Keeper League. Keepers can be kept as long as wanted.

I should have a choice between these three aces: Grienke, Verlander, Felix Hernandez.

Based on our scoring, which follows, how would you rank them 1,2,3. I doubt I can go wrong with any of the 3, baring injury, but I'd like your input as to how to rank them. Thanks!

Following is our scoring:
Scoring for Pitching Categories
BBI - Walks Issued (Pitchers) -1 point
BS - Blown Saves -10 points
CG - Complete Games 5 points
ER - Earned Runs -1 point
HA - Hits Allowed -.5 points
HB - Hit Batsmen -1 point
HD - Holds 5 points
INN - Innings 2 points
IRS - Inherited Runners Scored -1 point
K - Strikeouts (Pitcher) 1 point
NH - No-Hitters 15 points
PC - Pitch Count .01 points
PG - Perfect Games 25 points
S - Saves 10 points
SO - Shutouts 5 points
W - Wins 10 points
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Arencibia,Hosmer,Kinsler,Tulo,Bruce,Stubbs,Rasmus,Morrison,Beckham,McGehee,Lind,Lawrie,Zimm (DL),Belt (DL)Trout (ML)

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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby jjrup » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:30 pm

Obviously you can't go wrong with any of them. I'm in a similar scoring system. Because you can keep them indefinitely, I would say Felix, Verlander and Grienke. I love Grienke, but his personal issues scare me off just a little.
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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby Fenris-77 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:32 pm

Holy fak. :-S That is a lot of scoring stats. :-D Why not add in shoe size, pop-tart preference, and high score on Contra? I hear F-Her is some kind of Contra wunderkind, so he gets a bump for that.

Did you run the math on last season to see how those three guys scored?
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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby RASportsnut » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:37 pm

Last years scoring:

Grienke: 732.9 points (1st in league)
Verlander: 727.8 points (2nd in league)
Hernandez: 690.6 points (5th in league)

Grienke was the most efficient with his innings and pitch count, with the least amount of walks.
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F.Hernandez,Kershaw,Gallardo,Latos,B.Anderson,Scherzer,Marcum,Romero,Bumgarner,Matusz,JZimm,Madson,Matt Moore
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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby Fenris-77 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:45 pm

I don't think you're going to go wrong taking either of Greinke or Verlander really. We're talking about the 1-2 guys from last year, and the difference to this year is probably all small stuff that you'll have no control over anyway (or maybe not ....). If I had to pick I'd go Greinke - he's getting a lot less of those points from something dicey like wins (which is nearly 200 of Verlander's points). I trust Greinke to repeat the efficiency and maybe to snag another win or two, but Verlander has to win 19 again just to break even.
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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby sigriffey » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:49 pm

I agree --- Greinke's performance seems somewhat repeatable in the sense that even though he started out an immortal and finished strong in September, he was at least just "very good" in between ... which is why I could see him being very, very, very good throughout the course of this year, maybe snagging another win or two if the team hits better. WHo knows how the Tigers will support Verlander offensively. Felix is nice but maybe the in between for me, but I'd probably take Greinke, Felix THEN Verlander here. You can't go wrong though.
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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby Seanyfever » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:22 pm

I don't think I am rare breed, but I care less about the KC Royal than the others. All and in the same boat, but I care the least for Greinke. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Please Rank These 3 Ace Pitchers! WHIR!

Postby rails80 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:32 pm

King Felix - Verlander - Greinke

Felix should be the #1 rated pitcher this year with Seattle doing a bit to help him get run support, and hopefully some more Ws
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