Health Care bill

[jfg]

I never saw that post as a blast against Republicans other than maybe the sheep comment nor do I equate people against the health care bill as Republicans. I agree that both parties are guilty of a lot of that, and they are guilty of far worse things than the health care bill... yet this is what people are thinking is the end of the world as we know it.

[Madison]

Not to mention that no president has ever screwed me over this bad, and I still cannot believe this country elected someone who was so brain damaged that they actually thought this would be a good thing.

I'd argue that every president since I've had to pay taxes has screwed me far worse than this by spending billions of dollars on wars or occupations that haven't done jack for myself or I could argue this country. Or the billions of dollars that have been spent on special interests that do jack for 99 percent of this country. Not saying that the bill isn't screwing you over, but those are far worse in my opinion.

Hey, if the government wants to spend the tax dollars I already pay to give me health insurance, then cool, I'd fully agree that it is a better use of the taxes I already pay. But that isn't what they are doing.

[jfg]

So this is finally the tipping point? After trillions of dollars we're finally going to say we've had it? I just don't get why we're supposed to be upset now, and I think most of it has to do with the fact that Obama's name is on it.

[WaCougMBS]

So this is finally the tipping point? After trillions of dollars we're finally going to say we've had it? I just don't get why we're supposed to be upset now, and I think most of it has to do with the fact that Obama's name is on it.

So tired of hearing this line of reasoning that I could throw up

[jfg]

OK, so what's the reasoning? Why is everybody all up in arms that our tax dollars are going to waste now? I am not a huge fan of the bill, but I think it's ridiculous how some have labeled this the decline of Western civilization. Why all of the sudden is this the tipping point?

[AquaMan2342]

it's george bush's fault

[RugbyD]

OK, so what's the reasoning? Why is everybody all up in arms that our tax dollars are going to waste now? I am not a huge fan of the bill, but I think it's ridiculous how some have labeled this the decline of Western civilization. Why all of the sudden is this the tipping point?

Broadly speaking, the other misuses have always been so incremental. it's hard not to notice when 17% of your economy suddenly gets turned on its head. That's the stuff of banana republics, not civilized nations.

[bleach168]

Well, they did get mad over illegals possibly getting amnesty. OH HELLZ NO!

[jfg]

OK, so what's the reasoning? Why is everybody all up in arms that our tax dollars are going to waste now? I am not a huge fan of the bill, but I think it's ridiculous how some have labeled this the decline of Western civilization. Why all of the sudden is this the tipping point?

Broadly speaking, the other misuses have always been so incremental. it's hard not to notice when 17% of your economy suddenly gets turned on its head. That's the stuff of banana republics, not civilized nations.

979 billion has been spent on war since 2001... that's incremental?

[emb0lus]

OK, so what's the reasoning? Why is everybody all up in arms that our tax dollars are going to waste now? I am not a huge fan of the bill, but I think it's ridiculous how some have labeled this the decline of Western civilization. Why all of the sudden is this the tipping point?

Broadly speaking, the other misuses have always been so incremental. it's hard not to notice when 17% of your economy suddenly gets turned on its head. That's the stuff of banana republics, not civilized nations.

The public is now more aware than ever on how things proceed in our government and the so called 'back door deals', 'pork barrell spending' and the fact you don't actually have to have a majority to pass a major law like this are all part of the reason people are up in arms. Has this gone on before? Yes. Will it go on in the future? Probably but to what degree who knows. When it happened in the past, nobody was aware of it, or at least a smaller proportion were aware of just how crooked things get in politics. Add to that further governement regulations/takeover or whatever you want to call it over a health system that needs some fixing but they have not shown any ability to control up to this point ie Medicare/Medicaid and social security.

Is it really to pie-in-the-sky to hope for actual bipartisan agreement on something so large as the health care bill? The way this was rushed through before even knowing what is completely in it is just foolish.