8 Keepers and #1 Draft pick?

[bballislife17]

8 Keepers
H2H
6x6
R,RBI,HR,TB,SB,AVG
W,K,SV,WHIP,ERA,QS

Here's my team from last year

Elvis Andrus (Tex - SS)
Nelson Cruz (Tex - OF)
Chris Davis (Tex - 1B,3B)
Adrián González (SD - 1B)
Garrett Jones (Pit - 1B,OF)
José López (Sea - 1B,2B)
Carlos Quentin (CWS - OF)
Manny Ramírez (LAD - OF)
Nolan Reimold (Bal - OF)
Luke Scott (Bal - 1B,OF)
Geovany Soto (ChC - C)

Daniel Bard (Bos - RP)
Madison Bumgarner (SF - SP)
Scott Feldman (Tex - SP)
Kevin Gregg (Tor - RP)
Tommy Hanson (Atl - SP)
Rich Harden (Tex - SP)
Clayton Kershaw (LAD - SP)
Brad Lidge (Phi - RP)
Brian Matusz (Bal - SP,RP)
Ricky Nolasco (Fla - SP)
Jake Peavy (CWS - SP)
Chris Tillman (Bal - SP)
Randy Wells (ChC - SP,RP)


I've highlighted in red the people I'm thinking of keeping. I feel like I have to keep Manny for at least one more year, hopefully he retains some value. It leaves me really bloated with SP + 1B/OF. I could keep Davis, Andrus, or Reimold instead. My league is pretty big on young talent, I can't imagine it'll be easy getting some of these players back. Would anyone change these keepers?


I also have the #1 pick in the draft this year. Morales, Billingsley, Cain, Wieters are all available... trying to decide who to take. Any thoughts?

[Alexs]

I like your keeper selection I think its your best 8. possibly take the ss over manram

in terms of the #1 pick I'd go Morales/Weiters since you have so many pitchers...probably weiters

could you check out my thread please?
viewtopic.php?t=402726

[Johnny Tuttle]

I'm very tempted to say Andrus over Manny. Heck, I'm doing it. I just don't think Manny plays much past this year, and he's a huge risk for 2010.

Andrus is a solid player at a hard to fill position, and if he works out well through his sophomore season, you could have your SS for a decade.

I like Weiters in the redraft as your first pick.

[The Artful Dodger]

I'm keeping Manny for at least one more productive season. He could sit an off day or two a week (and that's to his benefit), but you're still looking at a guy who can reasonably post 90-100 R/RBI, 25 HR, and a .290-300 BA with perhaps potential for more (erm, contract year). Andrus' upside is somewhat exaggerated IMO, as much of his value relies on his SB (he doesn't really hit for a great deal of power) and where he hits in the Texas lineup (tentatively 9th).

[HOOTIE]

Keep Manny, draft Wieters.

[footballisbetter.com]

Keep Manny, draft Wieters.

I have to agree.

[KenDawg19]

I agree with the keepers you highlighted and I believe you are almost forced to draft Weiters.

Help with mine: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=402483

[Alouuuuu]

Manny was great for me during the 08 stretch run but I don't go near Manny this season - ESPECIALLY in H2H format. Those days when he's scratched from the lineup just kill you. Maybe I shouldn't share that little appreciated fact...

I'd rather take a shot on Andrus or Riemold (even though I don't love either of those guys). Maybe even Jose Lopez. I wouldn't be surprised if Manny plays about half a season and then says no mas and loafs it (or comes up with a mystery ailment) the rest of the way.

What if anything do you have to give up in order to keep a player? Like we compensate draft picks for keeper. ie. I keep Pujols but give up a 1st round pick in exchange.

[bballislife17]

We don't give up anything to keep a player, just 8 straight keepers per year, so there isn't any benefit to me not keeping one of the marginal guys.

I wonder about guys like Andrus or even Chris Davis being available past the first 2-3 rounds of the draft. Last year I was forced to keep Chris Davis after he got hyped up so much in articles that everyone in my league was jonesing for a chance to draft him. There are enough post-hype articles about him this year that it could be the same. Though the thought of keeping him after last year's debacle doesn't sit too well with me.

Andrus was an option I've been thinking about as well but his avg and place in the batting order scare me a bit. There are a lot of 25-30 SB .270 guys I could draft instead.

I guess the Wieters opinions don't really surprise me, though I just wonder whether a 20/90/.290 line from him is worth the first pick in the draft when I could get a 15/70/.270 guy in the later rounds quite easily. It's hard to ignore the sheer numbers that Morales, Cain, or Billingsley could put up in that spot, though those guys would be adding to positions I'm already strong. I wish there was an obvious 2B/SS/3B answer in the redraft but there isn't.

Also a note, we're able to keep one "rookie keeper" in addition to our 8, so my choices there are Matusz or Bumgarner. Originally I was going to go with Bumgarner but it seems like Matusz is maturing at a much faster rate so I've changed my mind.

I'm sort of pissed that I've backed myself into this corner, forced to keep three OFs when none of them are named Braun or Upton... oh well.

[Johnny Tuttle]

Andrus was an option I've been thinking about as well but his avg and place in the batting order scare me a bit. There are a lot of 25-30 SB .270 guys I could draft instead.

How many play SS?

I guess the Wieters opinions don't really surprise me, though I just wonder whether a 20/90/.290 line from him is worth the first pick in the draft when I could get a 15/70/.270 guy in the later rounds quite easily. It's hard to ignore the sheer numbers that Morales, Cain, or Billingsley could put up in that spot, though those guys would be adding to positions I'm already strong.

Still, the chance to get in on the ground floor of a top three option at his position is nothing to sniff at. If he works out well this year, you get your forever C at a bargain.

I wish there was an obvious 2B/SS/3B answer in the redraft but there isn't.

You're not making me regret saying Andrus over Manny.

With Chris Davis, by the way, when he was 3B, he was worth the risk. Now, you could redraft him later. I wouldn't regret missing on him too much.