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My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby sox 06 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:57 am

Should I trade Coles Hamels for Johan Santana?

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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby raiders_umpire » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:03 am

Yes, definitely get Santana.
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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby pre1322 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:45 am

Higher reward with Santana IMO. Go for it.

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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby SonsofSlam04 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:00 pm

Without blinking ...YES

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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby mkultra » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:04 pm

I wouldn't do the trade. At the end of the year it's likely be a wash, but consider:

- Hamels was very unlucky last year. His skills aren't in question. Santana, however, is looking like he's on the wrong side of that curve.

- Better defense and run support in Philly.

- Santana is going to be expected to carry his team much more than Hamels. With Halladay pitching ahead of him, Hamels will be under less pressure.
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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby Kimbos Beard » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:12 pm

Take this deal right now. Santana has the greater upside without a question. Santana is the Ace your team needs.
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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby AquaMan2342 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:18 pm

I'd probably take Santana in that situation too.
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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby sox 06 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:46 pm

Accepted. Thanks for the help guys ;-D
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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:42 pm

Not that excited about the deal myself and in fact, I believe Hamels will outperform Johan based on their current value. I still like Johan by a smidge, but the upside bit over Hamels is exaggerated.
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Re: My Hamels for his Santana?

Postby thejusman1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:44 pm

mkultra wrote:I wouldn't do the trade. At the end of the year it's likely be a wash, but consider:

- Hamels was very unlucky last year. His skills aren't in question. Santana, however, is looking like he's on the wrong side of that curve.

- Better defense and run support in Philly.

- Santana is going to be expected to carry his team much more than Hamels. With Halladay pitching ahead of him, Hamels will be under less pressure.


At first glance, I thought "no-brainer" Johan too, but I'm kind of agreeing with this analysis too. I think in terms of upside, Hamels definitely has more of it this year... in getting Johan, what you're just hoping for is that he can simply revert back to ace self and hold value. I would not be at all surprised if Johan finishes the season worse than Hamels, and I too think this will most likely be a wash.
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