EDIT: The new offer on the table is Carpenter and Bailey for Jimenez and Broxton.
…and in the future too? I have been back and forth between them in the rankings all year, and now have a straight up trade offer on the table in a keeper league (I have Carp). On one hand, Carp will win more games (likely) and likely have better ratios. However, the ever-present injury risk is now being accompanied by age and a declining K-rate. Ubaldo is younger and will give me the strikeouts, but as good as he’s been, he still pitches in Coors, so his win potential and ratio upside may not be where Carp’s is. What’s the verdict? Who’s in front on your rankings? Who should I be taking? Here’s my team if it provides some more insight (12 team H2H keeper, 6x6 w/ HLDs and OPS). I’m a little worried about my K potential here…:
C: Miguel Montero 1B: Mark Teixeira 2B: Ian Kinsler 3B: Pablo Sandoval SS: Jimmy Rollins OF: Jason Bay OF: Adam Dunn OF: Nelson Cruz UTIL: Joey Votto
SP: Adam Wainwright SP: Chris Carpenter SP: Chad Billingsley RP: Andrew Bailey RP: Chad Qualls P: Matt Thornton P: Still Empty
BN: Carlos Gonzalez BN: Erik Bedard (going to stash on DL to call up Brett Anderson) BN: Ryan Dempster BN: Mark Buehrle BN: Joel Pineiro BN: Still Empty, dropping to call up Julio Borbon anyways
Prospects: Stephen Strasburg Brett Anderson Julio Borbon Brett Lawrie Ryan Westmoreland
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Holy crap... that's your team in a 12-team league? I saw your offense and figured it must be an 8 team league.
Damn, this team is stacked everywhere but RP. Don't see a single player on your offense who's going far outside the top 100 in ADP.
As for Ubaldo/Carp... I like Ubaldo for future, but I like Carp for this year. I wouldn't but any thought into Coors or no-Coors, I'd be more worried about run-support, which Carp will have in spades over the Rockes.
Not that I doubt he is talented, but I would prefer to see another year from Ubaldo before dealing someone like Carp for him. See what other offers you might get for Carp if you want to trade him. In any case, your team looks like it could win so I would keep Carp and play to win.
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yeah, i think Carpenter is the more reliable one of the bunch, even with the injury a couple of years ago. Jiminez finally had a breakthrough year, but so did Oliver Perez many years ago...and then he reverted back to being wild and inconsitent.
I would probably rank Ubaldo slightly ahead of Carpenter. I like Carpenter a lot, but with his injuries the past couple of seasons and with him growing older, I would take the upside of the younger Ubaldo. Thanks for your help with mine.
Don't do the deal....I need to see more out of Ubaldo...sure he has a lot of upside, but not the upside of being the best pitcher in the game and when Carp is healthy he IS the best pitcher in the game. Last year he was perfectly healthy throwing wise. Only time on DL was because he pulled something while hitting the ball. He will be fine next year. Don't listen to all the Hoopla that he is due to get hurt...shit I'm due to win a million dollars this year. Stay put with Carp and reap the benefits.
Nice roster. I think I would go ahead and take Ulbaldo... perhaps you can convince the owner to throw in a little bullpen help as well. I like Carp better this year, but I think you can weather the difference in stats and still have a brighter future in 2011- and beyond.