First round pitching

[skjelstrom]

Now I'm not big on taking pitching early (especially with the great middle round options available) but does anyone think it would be a good idea to take someone like Roy Halladay or Tim Lincecum early?

Halladay is arguably the best pitcher in baseball and even though he may be getting old he is still VERY dominant. He is pretty much as much of a lock as you can get for injury free pitchers and most of all he is moving to the NL and out of the AL East. He will also get more win support with a team like the Phillies batting behind him.

and As for Lincecum he has 2 Cy Young's already and STILL has room to improve. He is just flat out amazing.

Also just for other purposes my league has QS, CG, and SHO to add to the normal stats (ERA, WHIP, k/9, W)

What is your opinion on early pitching and exceptions such as these?

[silverZ]

Timmy is the only pitcher worth a late 1st round pick, unless you have some crazy scoring cats.

[Bloody Sox]

With CG and SO I would definitely move Timmy and Halladay way up into the first round (Timmy probably #6, Halladay probably #12), otherwise no (though Timmy is at #14 for me)

[ScrappyDoo]

I play in a 10 team 7x7 H2H with the other categories being BAA and K/9 (OBP and SLG for batters) so it is tempting to take Timmy in the 1st. I wouldn't touch Halladay, he gives up a lot of hits, and he's in a bandbox. Timmy is almost guaranteed to be in the top 10 by the end of the season in this format. Pitching version of Pujols. But it's hard to pass on the hitters that will be available. The only reason I would consider it, is that in a lot of mocks I've been doing people like Zimmerman and Votto are always sitting there at the next turn.

[AquaMan2342]

With CG and SO I would definitely move Timmy and Halladay way up into the first round (Timmy probably #6, Halladay probably #12), otherwise no (though Timmy is at #14 for me)

CG alone would force me to move Halladay above Lincecum, especially with the move to the NL.

[Ender]

In a standard league there is no reason to ever take a pitcher or C in the 1st round imo.

[skjelstrom]

I know they should be moved up but usually I purposefully avoid pitchers until mid rounds. Is there anyone who usually waits for pitching like I do, that would make the exception because of the CG and SHO catagories?

[Padsin05]

With CG and SO I would definitely move Timmy and Halladay way up into the first round (Timmy probably #6, Halladay probably #12), otherwise no (though Timmy is at #14 for me)

CG alone would force me to move Halladay above Lincecum, especially with the move to the NL.

actually my opinion on Halladay would be to move him down, the dude has had a TON of CG's only cause he pitches in the AL, its a different ballgame in the NL, yes the lineups are weaker, but he will be pinch hit for in the 7th on occasion, and definately the 8th and 9th in the NL, where he can just trot back out there in the AL

[Senor Shush]

With CG and SO I would definitely move Timmy and Halladay way up into the first round (Timmy probably #6, Halladay probably #12), otherwise no (though Timmy is at #14 for me)

CG alone would force me to move Halladay above Lincecum, especially with the move to the NL.

actually my opinion on Halladay would be to move him down, the dude has had a TON of CG's only cause he pitches in the AL, its a different ballgame in the NL, yes the lineups are weaker, but he will be pinch hit for in the 7th on occasion, and definately the 8th and 9th in the NL, where he can just trot back out there in the AL

Was just getting on here to post the same thing. haha!

Look at the top 10 CG leaders from last year. 6 of 10 were from the AL, with Roy topping out at 9. The top 3 CG-leaders from the NL were Lincecum, Cain and Carpenter. Them together only combined for 11CG's, 2 more than what Roy posted in Toronto. I'd say 5 CGs is his ceiling this year, strictly due to the reasons pointed out above.

[AquaMan2342]

With CG and SO I would definitely move Timmy and Halladay way up into the first round (Timmy probably #6, Halladay probably #12), otherwise no (though Timmy is at #14 for me)

CG alone would force me to move Halladay above Lincecum, especially with the move to the NL.

actually my opinion on Halladay would be to move him down, the dude has had a TON of CG's only cause he pitches in the AL, its a different ballgame in the NL, yes the lineups are weaker, but he will be pinch hit for in the 7th on occasion, and definately the 8th and 9th in the NL, where he can just trot back out there in the AL

Lee pitched 3 CG in 12 starts in Philly last year. The division was already wrapped up, so I think it's pretty safe to say Halladay will pitch his share of CGs this year.