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Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby Bosy Billups » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:09 pm

Straight up.

Although those 3 players are risky, I'm looking for big bounce back years from all 3. Whereas, I think Hanley's shoulder finally becomes a problem this year.

My thinking, anyways.
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby yoda87 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:28 pm

Well whats the rest of your squad look like, if you got no Ace or weak OF then sure the stats you lose from hanley will be made up by the rest of your squad...
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby Bosy Billups » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:42 pm

Thanks Yoda. Basically, this is a 15 player keeper league, and it would look like the following, with the ( ) showing the original Han-Ram position:

C -
1B - Pujols
2B - Uggla
3B - Longoria
SS - Rollins (Hanley)
MI - Kendrick
CI - Zimmerman
OF - J-Upton
OF - Markakis
OF - Hamilton (T. Snider)
OF - Cargo
DH - Butler
DH -
B-
B-

SP - Halladay
SP - J. Santana
SP - Nolasco
SP - Peavy (G. Floyd)
P -
P -
P -
P -
P -
B -
B -
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby Grounded Polo » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:56 pm

I think Hanley is the #2 player in fantasy baseball while Peavy is moving to a hitter's paradise, Hamilton has serious injury concerns, and Rollins is getting older.

Hanley by a wide margin to me.
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby DoctaDre » Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:04 am

hanley for sure... rollins is not going to get into MVP form... he will have about the same year as he did last year.... hamilton gets injured like its his business... only plus in here is peavy but not at the cost of what your giving up.
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby Bosy Billups » Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:31 am

Thanks. I don't know though. The pre-season rankings usually never pan out, and here's how I see it.

I have enough HR's, but what I am lacking is speed. Rollins will put up 15+ more bags than Hanley, and probably have many more runs since he is leading off and on a better team. I look for Rollins to have one last hoorah, more like 2 years ago than last year.

Hamilton, he will put up better numbers than Snider. He may get hurt, but he is a freak of nature and the natural. Don't forget that Dunn called him the best player he has ever seen, including over A-Rod and Bonds. His upside is crazy.

And Peavy could be a sleeper cy-young candidate. He lit up competition at the end of last year in Cellular field, and you can look to 75 more K's than Floyd.

Take all that together, the fact that I have Pujols and Longoria, I think it makse sense to get more stats across the board rather than keep Hanley because he can go 35/20..
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby fast dogs » Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:47 am

Looks like your mind was made up before you ever posted. Rollins got younger,Hamilton healthier, Peavy in the Cy Young voting and everyones #2 player Hanley overrated
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby Grouperman941 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:24 am

What you are saying makes some sense, even though I think you are expecting an awful lot of Rollins.

However, I find that it is better to squeeze as much production as possible into as few roster spots as I can in the offseason, and here, you are doing the opposite. I don't think you get enough of an upgrade in OF or SP to do this, even though I really like Hamilton and Peavy. I also like Snider and Floyd.

I also think you should account for the 5 year age difference between Hanley and Rollins. That's a lot of future production.
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Re: Hanley --> Rollins / Hamilton / Peavy

Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:03 am

Bosy Billups wrote:Thanks. I don't know though. The pre-season rankings usually never pan out, and here's how I see it.

I have enough HR's, but what I am lacking is speed. Rollins will put up 15+ more bags than Hanley, and probably have many more runs since he is leading off and on a better team. I look for Rollins to have one last hoorah, more like 2 years ago than last year.

Hamilton, he will put up better numbers than Snider. He may get hurt, but he is a freak of nature and the natural. Don't forget that Dunn called him the best player he has ever seen, including over A-Rod and Bonds. His upside is crazy.

And Peavy could be a sleeper cy-young candidate. He lit up competition at the end of last year in Cellular field, and you can look to 75 more K's than Floyd.

Take all that together, the fact that I have Pujols and Longoria, I think it makse sense to get more stats across the board rather than keep Hanley because he can go 35/20..


Problem is, you're assuming that in a vacuum that Rollins, Hamilton, and Peavy improve to a certain extent.

I'm a believer in Rollins, as he was unlucky in the first half of the season and still wound up with a 20 HR/30 SB season. He's incredibly streaky and Hanley's plate discipline is better to the point he's a shoo-in to hit a .300 average and over; Rollins has never hit .300.

Then, you have Hamilton. I think his injuries last season were of the fluky nature, but the fact that he tends to get banged up with his aggressive fielding, he's still an injury risk. I believe the reward is there, now that he's more likely to move back to his usual comfortable swing. Then again, you're facing the risk of not just injury, but if last season was a byproduct of declining peripherals than simply getting hurt or his swing being off.

Peavy's HR/FB has been relatively low, mainly because of Petco. He's moving to a hitter's park and if he's not totally healthy, he could be serving up more flyballs. Again, another risk.

It's nice that you're getting quality depth out of Hanley. However, Hanley is one of those players I'd be hard-pressed to move on without asking for even more. Maybe if you're taking on less risk with Hamilton/Peavy, but it's difficult to deal a guy who's a 30/30 candidate at SS who was in an adjustment period hitting 3rd.
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