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Re: Persausive argument by Jack McDowell on problems with the CY

Postby garf112 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:04 pm

cough... all- star game... cough.
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Re: Persausive argument by Jack McDowell on problems with the CY

Postby tianyi86 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:29 pm

Didn't read all the post but after seeing Mark Prior and Kerry Wood collapse in their 20s, I am fine with managers keeping tight pitch count. Both of those guys had electric stuff and if weren't injured, would be perrennial all stars.
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Re: Persausive argument by Jack McDowell on problems with the CY

Postby zepfan » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:36 am

bigken117 wrote:
thedude wrote:Fans vote for the Hank Aaron, therefore it is not an award that has any prestige.


I know you were being sarcastic, so allow me to continue

Yes, because the coaches always get it right with Gold Gloves and writers get it right with MVP's and BBWA gets it right with the Hall of Fame.

Stupid fans shouldn't have any say ;-7


The Gold Glove has to be the biggest joke of the bunch. A lot of the coaches just vote for their favourite player I guess. Some of the winners have been inexplicable.

The MVP is kind of a no-win situation because a lot of people disagree about the definition of "valuable". Hearing some of the crazy arguments that come with that can be fun though. :-b

The HOF guys I don't know much about but they're gonna have a tough job really soon when all the usual suspects become eligible. :-°


OP wrote:Persausive argument by Jack McDowell on problems with the CY


The man won a Cy Young award. He knows what he's talking about. ;-7
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Re: Persausive argument by Jack McDowell on problems with the CY

Postby Padsin05 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:39 am

tianyi86 wrote:Didn't read all the post but after seeing Mark Prior and Kerry Wood collapse in their 20s, I am fine with managers keeping tight pitch count. Both of those guys had electric stuff and if weren't injured, would be perrennial all stars.


Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Randy Johnson all disagree.

Its lack of preperation, and the unability to work out properly to build up arm and leg strength that cause to break down. Fatigue leads to arm trouble yes, but the fact of the matter, Pitchers dont run hills and stairs like they used to.

Prior was hardly overworked, and had a perfect delivery, yet broke down for no apparent reason.

Wood, while throwing hard, used too much energy in his delivery and approach, and carried too much weight which lead to fatigue
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