Adding HLDs as a stat. Which stat to cut? (POLL)

[dooz]

I have been running a league for about 5 or 6 years now. When we started, none of us had much experience with fantasy at all and the thus the league settings were a little funky. We've we done the league a couple times in an effort to provide value to all facets of the game (As much as possible, anyway. We won't be adding E or F%). 5x5 is fine and is a good standard league setup but I feel (as do my league mates) that it's not an ideal league configuration.

Our current league setup is (R,HR,RBI,SB,K,BB,TB,AVG and W,L,ER,SV,K,BB,ERA,WHIP). For a couple seasons, I've been pushing for the elimination of HRs (already rewarded in TBs) but it's too "sexy" of a stat (Chicks dig the long ball), what with "Touch 'Em All", etc. so that's a battle for another off-season (as well as BB on the pitching side).

We are going to add Holds and remove either ER or L. I am posting this to get general feedback and maybe so poll votes too. I am strongly in favor of removing ER, even though we all know that W/L aren't great indications of a pitcher's performance but for fantasy purposes, it's all we really got.

I'm the commish so ultimately I make the final decision but I asked for some league feedback and it was pretty unanimously in favor of adding HLDs but there was almost 50/50 split on whether it should be ER or L.

What are you thoughts?

[bigmck]

I don't like Losses because it is a Negative Stat. If you want to use Losses, I would make the category "Wins minus Losses". You could had Holds that way.

[dooz]

I don't like Losses because it is a Negative Stat. If you want to use Losses, I would make the category "Wins minus Losses". You could had Holds that way.

ER is also a negative stat. W-L doesn't really help the situation either

[fast dogs]

Not sure of the setup just need to be careful to not change the rules to make streaming more attractive

[BoBtheMule]

I don't like Losses because it is a Negative Stat. If you want to use Losses, I would make the category "Wins minus Losses". You could had Holds that way.

ER is also a negative stat. W-L doesn't really help the situation either

Why doesn't it? You get rid of W and L... make it W-L and then add holds... same number of stats. Your other option is to do SAVES + HOLDS instead of Saves and Holds.
I prefer the former tho... W-L prevents streaming b/c the borderline pitchers out there for streaming don't tend to rack up great winning percentages.

Ridding yourself of ER is fine too... it doesn't really make a lot of sense since ERA is already there...
I'd get rid of W, L and ER and add W-L and Holds... that'd be ideal
BoB

[Spimothy Leary]

I voted losses but i'd suggest K-BB as an alternative,, I think those cat's are very Merge-able

[FantasySportsMaven]

for me, this depends entirely on what type of league this is? Did I miss it?
If Roto, then eliminate Ls.
If H2H, then eliminate ERA at a cat assuming you have WHIP as a cat.

If you can combine Ws and Ls, then that iste best answer for both.