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Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby Clint » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:02 pm

in 5x5 league w/ obp instead of ave.

looking at pick around 30-35.

which and why?
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby theplayer11 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:20 pm

very close..both good OBP..I would go with Werth as Bay goes to a bigger park
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby Ender » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:25 pm

I have Bay just a tiny bit ahead of Werth and it is mostly because he'll bat in the middle of the order and Werth will probably end up hitting 5th or 6th. I don't think it is a slam dunk or anything though. Werth is in a better park and has a better lineup around him, Bay probably has a little more upside.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby Pochucker » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:24 pm

Ill take Werth. I see similiar stats with few more Hrs and Runs and lot more SB for Werth. Bays 65% contact rate 2nd half of last year sends shivers down my spine. He still had 32% hit rate but those flyballs off the Monster are outs in citifield.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby Verminator » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:27 pm

I have both players in a keeper league and I would favor Bay for his consistency (with the exception of 2007). Plus, the Citi woes are completely overblown so I think that Bay still has a great chance at a 30 HR, 15 SB season. Werth has been injury prone for the majority of his career which helps explains why he is a late bloomer.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby Grounded Polo » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:13 pm

Ender wrote:I have Bay just a tiny bit ahead of Werth and it is mostly because he'll bat in the middle of the order and Werth will probably end up hitting 5th or 6th. I don't think it is a slam dunk or anything though. Werth is in a better park and has a better lineup around him, Bay probably has a little more upside.


I think Bay hitting 4 or 5 is just as debatable as Werth hitting 5 or 6, he's not locked in at 4 yet.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:02 pm

Verminator wrote:I have both players in a keeper league and I would favor Bay for his consistency (with the exception of 2007). Plus, the Citi woes are completely overblown so I think that Bay still has a great chance at a 30 HR, 15 SB season. Werth has been injury prone for the majority of his career which helps explains why he is a late bloomer.


FWIW, the perceived injury proneness of Werth was derived from a wrist injury (a HBP) that didn't quite recover as expected (back in his Dodger days). In Philly, he platooned with Geoff Jenkins for a while, but prorate 2008 on split time and you basically had the kind of season Werth enjoyed in '09. Other than that, I think Werth is a good bet for 30/20 and a .270 average.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby Ender » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:36 am

Grounded Polo wrote:
Ender wrote:I have Bay just a tiny bit ahead of Werth and it is mostly because he'll bat in the middle of the order and Werth will probably end up hitting 5th or 6th. I don't think it is a slam dunk or anything though. Werth is in a better park and has a better lineup around him, Bay probably has a little more upside.


I think Bay hitting 4 or 5 is just as debatable as Werth hitting 5 or 6, he's not locked in at 4 yet.


I'd be absolutely shocked at this point if Bay doesn't start the season hitting 4th for the Mets. Reyes, Scrub, Wright, Bay. When Beltran comes back there is an off chance he hits 4th with Bay hitting 5th but I bet they slot him in at #2 instead. I would imagine Francoer bats behind Bay.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby HOOTIE » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:15 am

Verminator wrote:I have both players in a keeper league and I would favor Bay for his consistency (with the exception of 2007). Plus, the Citi woes are completely overblown so I think that Bay still has a great chance at a 30 HR, 15 SB season. Werth has been injury prone for the majority of his career which helps explains why he is a late bloomer.


Citi did have a 94 run index, ranking 24th.

I prefer Werth myself

Bay is projected 4th, Werth 5th. But Philly will score 120 more runs easy.
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Re: Jayson Werth or Jason Bay

Postby kab21 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:39 am

HOOTIE wrote:
Verminator wrote:I have both players in a keeper league and I would favor Bay for his consistency (with the exception of 2007). Plus, the Citi woes are completely overblown so I think that Bay still has a great chance at a 30 HR, 15 SB season. Werth has been injury prone for the majority of his career which helps explains why he is a late bloomer.


Citi did have a 94 run index, ranking 24th.


Yes, let's use one yr park factor samples. Jason Bay will hit 40+ HR's because Citi Field had a HR park factor of 106. ;-D
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