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Best Pitching staff of 2010

Yankees
11
19%
Red Sox
18
31%
Dodgers
0
No votes
Giants
10
17%
Cubs
0
No votes
Phillies
4
7%
Cards
2
3%
Seattle
4
7%
CWS
9
16%
 
Total votes : 58

Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby DaSh 1s » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:18 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:I'd take the Yankees top 5 over anybody. The RedSox, WhiteSox, and Giants after that.


As long as the Yankees have this thing as a number 2, they can't be considered the best rotation. Deep for sure, but not the best.

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Beckett is easily a better number 2 than AJ.

EDIT: The Y should be ER and the X should be games started.
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby Sultan of Swing » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:21 pm

I think you switched the X and Y axis. The Y should be ER and the X should be games started.
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby DaSh 1s » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:23 pm

Your correct!, Thanks!
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:53 pm

DaSh 1s wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:I'd take the Yankees top 5 over anybody. The RedSox, WhiteSox, and Giants after that.


As long as the Yankees have this thing as a number 2, they can't be considered the best rotation. Deep for sure, but not the best.

Beckett is easily a better number 2 than AJ.

Best rotation 1-5 IMO is the Yankees. No one said Burnett was a great #2.
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby DaSh 1s » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:07 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Best rotation 1-5 IMO is the Yankees. No one said Burnett was a great #2.


Pettitte, Javy, Joba, and Aj are likely to have ERA's of 4 or greater?

Is there something I am missing? Lackey, Lester, Beckett are all going to be in the mid 3-low 3 range or better...
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby poisonsag » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:15 pm

From the looks of the pol land replies, Red Sox seems the most favorite, followed by Yankees and giants. Although i am so surprised to see no one voted or commented on how great Dodgers did last year and can repeat it this year again.

Last Year Dodgers stats - 3rd highest in W, Tied for least hits with giants, 2nd highest SO, Lowest ERA in Majors.

Below is my predictions for popular teams, i have a category on left and on right i have the first, second and third best teams in that category respectively.

Wins - Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies

Best ERA - Dodgers, Giants, Braves/St. Louis

Most S.O - Giants (by miles), Cubs/dodgers, Redsox/Yankees
I support Two Teams -----> The Yankees
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The other who defeats ----> Red Sox
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:29 pm

DaSh 1s wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:Best rotation 1-5 IMO is the Yankees. No one said Burnett was a great #2.


Pettitte, Javy, Joba, and Aj are likely to have ERA's of 4 or greater?

Is there something I am missing? Lackey, Lester, Beckett are all going to be in the mid 3-low 3 range or better...


This is how I see it.

Lester = low 3
Beckett' = high 3
Lackey = high 3 but he hasn't gone over 180 IP in the last 2 years.
I'd say your looking at 4.5+ for the last two spots with Dice-K, Buchholz and Wake combined

Sabbathia = low 3
Vazquez = high 3
Burnett = low 4
Pettitte = low 4
Joba/Hughes = low 4
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby thedude » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:57 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Sabbathia = low 3
Vazquez = high 3
Burnett = low 4
Pettitte = low 4
Joba/Hughes = low 4


Vazquez has been pretty terrible pitcher in his time spent in the AL. He was good for one year 2007, and mediocre to bad in 2004, 2006, and 2008. Last year he was great, and he will eat innings, but I would not be willing to predict an ERA below 4 for him. Burnett will probably have a better ERA when it is all said and done this year. IMO, Burnett is more likely to have the sub 4 era.

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I'd say your looking at 4.5+ for the last two spots with Dice-K, Buchholz and Wake combined


Buchholz i expect to have an ERA around 4.00. He has great stuff and really seemed to be putting it together in the second half of August and into September.

Matsuzaka might struggle this year or he might have a sub 3 ERA, it is hard to predict at this point. Probably somewhere between his 2007 rookie year and his 2008 sophomore year (assuming he is healthy) with an ERA of around 4.3 to 4.5. I really do not see both having an ERA over 4.5, though it is entirely possible one does.
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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby thedude » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:02 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
We'll see. I don't see the back end being any worse than most teams.
The Cardinals ranked 4th last year in ERA, 3rd in WHIP and 4th in xFIP with 1, 2, FAIL. Unless you think Pineiro is tons better than Penny I don't see what has really changed from last year.



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Re: Best Pitching Staff 2010

Postby AquaMan2342 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:26 pm

Vazquez is the definition of boom or bust this season. I don't really think there's any way to accurately estimate what he'll provide this year.
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