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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby Matthias » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:23 pm

thejusman1 wrote:Cruz is still streaky as hell. I would be trying to sell high on him right now. (he's ranked higher thank Albert Pujols is!)

I'm not sure how you would sell high on Cruz. I'm still penciling him in for 30+ HRs with a chance to nose around 40. Sure, I'd trade him for Pujols but noone who owns Pujols is going to do that swap. So maybe you could trade him for more of an established OF like Manny or Bay or Ellsbury but I don't think I'd want to do that.

This past week doesn't mean that he's going to hit 120 HRs but it does validate, or at least begin to validate, that he is a legitimate power threat. I thought that was true in the pre-season; I think that is true now. Basically, this past week hasn't moved his perceived value at all in my eyes. Well, maybe a little bit... but not much.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby Grounded Polo » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:38 pm

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thejusman1 wrote:Cruz is still streaky as hell. I would be trying to sell high on him right now. (he's ranked higher thank Albert Pujols is!)

I'm not sure how you would sell high on Cruz. I'm still penciling him in for 30+ HRs with a chance to nose around 40. Sure, I'd trade him for Pujols but noone who owns Pujols is going to do that swap. So maybe you could trade him for more of an established OF like Manny or Bay or Ellsbury but I don't think I'd want to do that.


Manny or Bay would have been underselling him even in preseason to me. I had Cruz at 11 for OFs after Havok's top 7, Granderson, Lind, and Werth. Cruz was close to Lind and Werth to me. Lind and Werth just felt like the safer bets but I wouldn't be surprised if he is better than either of them this year. He can be a top 5 OF behind Braun, Kemp, JUp, and Holliday. It's doubtful he'll pass Crawford's value but he has 40 hr upside and can run, putting him 32 here was ridiculous.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby DaSh 1s » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:44 pm

Nelson Cruz has 6 HRs in his first 8 games this year.

He's the first player in ML history to do that.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby thejusman1 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:53 pm

Cruz started off red-hot last year as well and faded down the stretch... by sell-high, I didn't mean a Pujols-Cruz swap (although if you can do that, you most certainly should!) I was thinking more like target a guy like Werth, who is a little cold out the gate right now, and a quality starter or other positional player for Cruz (Werth + Garza for Cruz, maybe). See if the Fielder/Teix owner is frustrated in your league and float him a Cruz offer straight-up. The guy is obviously not going to bat .414 over the course of the season, nor do I think he can sustain even close to a .300 average. The power is legit, but I maintain that Cruz is STREAKY (as evidenced by his .260 average last year). He's nowhere near the caliber of Holliday or Braun, if you could flip Cruz for either of them you are a bandit.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby Grounded Polo » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:07 pm

thejusman1 wrote:Cruz started off red-hot last year as well and faded down the stretch... by sell-high, I didn't mean a Pujols-Cruz swap (although if you can do that, you most certainly should!) I was thinking more like target a guy like Werth, who is a little cold out the gate right now, and a quality starter or other positional player for Cruz (Werth + Garza for Cruz, maybe). See if the Fielder/Teix owner is frustrated in your league and float him a Cruz offer straight-up. The guy is obviously not going to bat .414 over the course of the season, nor do I think he can sustain even close to a .300 average. The power is legit, but I maintain that Cruz is STREAKY (as evidenced by his .260 average last year). He's nowhere near the caliber of Holliday or Braun, if you could flip Cruz for either of them you are a bandit.


Werth and Garza would probably be worth a try. Anyone dealing their first rounders for Cruz already should give up. :-o
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:18 pm

Cruz had 33 jacks last year and missed more than a month's worth of time. I'll take the inevitable hit in batting average.....and I'm holding unless an idiot makes a ridiculous offer. He's hitting 40 this year, book it.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby Inukchuk » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:04 pm

Agreed. I was very surprised to see him hang around as late into drafts as he did. He has the same concerns as Werth (AVG, small track record), but seemed to consistently go 2 to 3 rounds later. I have him in a few leagues and I'm not looking to sell unless I'm blown away.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:17 pm

For sure. To me Werth was arguably the most overrated player on the board this year because I knew I could get Cruz two rounds later, as you said. Not that Werth doesn't have value.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby mweir145 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:59 pm

Keeping Nelson Cruz is paying off. Still can't believe he was below the Fonz on this list.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 50 Outfielder Rankings

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:26 pm

MLB Scout in ESPN article wrote:"Nobody in baseball has got as much power as this guy," said one scout. "And playing in that ballpark, he ought to hit 35 to 40 home runs easy."


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