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Postby sportsguy1989 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:16 pm

i thought id make a list this is my 1st one can u let me know what you guys think
1.jason heyward
2.stephen starsburg
3.neftali feliz
4.desmond jennings
5.carlos santana
6.buster posey
7.madison bumgarner
8.mike stanton
9.aroldis chapman
10.jesus montero
11.brian matusz
12.pedro alvarez
13.justin smoak
14.wade davis
15.jason castro
16.starlin castro
17.jeremy hellickson
18.mike taylor
19.brett wallace
20.chris carter
21.domonick brown
22.kyle drabek
23.dustin ackely
24.yonder alonzo
25.tanner scheppers
26.martin perez
27.jaff decker
28.ryan westmoreland
29.brett lawrie
30.alcides escobar
31.devaris gorden
32.logan morrison
33.derek norris
34.casey kelly
35.jose igleasias
36.grant green
37.jake arrieta
38.jiovanni mier
39.hector rondon
40.jennry mejia
41.fernando martinez
42.austin jackson
43.jarrod parker
44.matt dominguez
45.josh vitters
46.tony sanchez
47.hank conger
48.simon castro
49.julio teheran
50.alex avila
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby kab21 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:28 pm

There's nothing crazy but I'm not as big of a fan of the Castro brothers :-D as you are. Although the Starlin hype has him rated about where you have him at some major publications.

Pretty aggressive ranking of Scheppers. his stuff definitely puts him there. If only he can be more durable than Harden...

I'm not sure that DGordon and Alcides should be ranked next to each other. I don't think his bat projects better than Alcides and Alcides has played at a much higher level and has plus defense (which I don't think gordon does). You might be able to make a little bit of an argument if this was done entirely for fantasy if you thought Alcides was a 30+ SB guy while DGordon was a 60+ SB guy.
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby Steve-o » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:18 am

sportsguy1989 wrote:i thought id make a list this is my 1st one can u let me know what you guys think
1.jason heyward
2.stephen starsburg
3.neftali feliz
4.desmond jennings
5.carlos santana
6.buster posey
7.madison bumgarner a little high for my taste
8.mike stanton
9.aroldis chapman Might be too high
10.jesus montero
11.brian matusz
12.pedro alvarez
13.justin smoak
14.wade davis
15.jason castro
16.starlin castro
17.jeremy hellickson
18.mike taylor
19.brett wallace
20.chris carter
21.domonick brown
22.kyle drabek
23.dustin ackely Might be a little low
24.yonder alonzo
25.tanner scheppers
26.martin perez
27.jaff decker
28.ryan westmoreland
29.brett lawrie
30.alcides escobar
31.devaris gorden
32.logan morrison
33.derek norris
34.casey kelly
35.jose igleasias
36.grant green
37.jake arrieta
38.jiovanni mier
39.hector rondon
40.jennry mejia
41.fernando martinez too high imo
42.austin jackson
43.jarrod parker
44.matt dominguez
45.josh vitters
46.tony sanchez
47.hank conger
48.simon castro
49.julio teheran
50.alex avila


I'd probably have Aaron Hicks somewhere in a top 50. Christian Friedrich too. You're last ten or so guys are filled with people who you have 10-20 spots higher than I do (Martinez, Dominguez, Sanchez, Avila), but that's certainly a-ok.
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby sportsguy1989 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:59 am

i knw a lot of people like hicks but hes to raw for me to put in a top 50 because he hasnt really performed well but upside wise he should be but hes mostly upside imo
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby hybrid » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:40 pm

sportsguy1989 wrote:i knw a lot of people like hicks but hes to raw for me to put in a top 50 because he hasnt really performed well but upside wise he should be but hes mostly upside imo


He really isn't that raw of a hitter. Hicks shows great plate discipline for someone his age and really due to the Twins holding him back didn't get a full season to show adjustments. Fact is he had an amazingly low babip for someone with his speed and approach his first month he was in Low A. If you look at his 2nd month where he had time to adjust, he hit roughly .280/.365/.435. Small size of course but with his tools and scouts still love him, it's hard to find that much at fault with him.
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby sportsguy1989 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:18 pm

ya i see ur pt but im not as huge on him as most
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby mblax10 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:40 pm

Hicks seems to be the perfect example of underrated by strictly stat guys and possibly overrated by strictly scouting guys. That's not going to change next year as it will be really hard to put up big numbers in Ft. Myers.
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Re: top 50 prospect list

Postby kab21 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:28 pm

mblax10 wrote:Hicks seems to be the perfect example of underrated by strictly stat guys and possibly overrated by strictly scouting guys. That's not going to change next year as it will be really hard to put up big numbers in Ft. Myers.


And I think it is also only people that look at OPS and HR's. The midwest league is also (along with the FSL) a very difficult league to hit in. Only 19 players (350+ PA's) had a .800+ OPS and 11 of them were 23 or older. sabrmetrically his stats are solid although there are some question marks. His K rate is a little high but he's also very raw. And fortunately the Twins are an org that doesn't rush a player like the Mets for example. I'm not concerned about his power numbers yet since it's common for this to develop late with his prospect background (and the hitting environment). The SB's do concern me a little but everything says that he has plus (or plus-plus) speed so hopefully this will improve.

On the opposite side of the spectrum is the bad-bodied Jaff Decker. He put up an incredible line (with tons of walks) at a young age in a league that is very difficult to hit in. I think the scout types are overlooking him imo.
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