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Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:43 pm

1B Rankings
1. H. Ramirez (Fla) – Keeps slowing down and HR down, but OPS was up
2. T. Tulowitski (Col) – Might be going out on a limb here, but he’s great
3. J. Rollins (Phi) – A professional and reliable star still at 31
4. J. Reyes (NYM) – ’09 downgrades him some and makes him a bargain
5. D. Jeter (NYY) – At almost 36, I think last year was his last great season
6. Al. Ramirez (ChW) – 1st season at SS hurt 2nd half, expect better
7. Y. Escobar (Atl) – I fully expect him to breakout in 2010
8. S. Drew (Ari) – Thinking he bounces back to form some
9. B. Zobrist (TB) - Where did that come from? Can he repeat? 2B & OF eligible
10. A. Andrus (Tex) – He will benefit from Rangers offensive machine
11. E. Aybar (LAA) – Has proven many wrong, he’s pretty good
12. J. Bartlett (TB) – Not quite a believer, might have been career year
13. M. Tejada (Bal) – Will gain 3B, likely last year with SS eligibility
14. O. Cabrera (Cin) – He’s your prototypical mercenary infielder
15. J. Hardy (Min) – Like him in Minnesota, could bat as high as 2nd
16. R. Furcal (LAD) – Played in 150 GM but didn’t seem right, should be right
17. A. Cabrera (Cle) – 2B eligible, hasn’t quite hit his peak yet
18. A. Escobar (Mil) – Many think he’ll be ROY, only glove and speed right now
19. E. Cabrera (SD) – Top of the order and he’ll run
20. R. Theroit (ChC) – Should bat 2nd, his speed plays, Castro may push him
21. J. Peralta (Cle) – Very down year for power, likely won’t play SS in 2011
22. M. Scutaro (Bos) – The Red Sox will hit him in but I think he fails
23. J. Lugo (Stl) – Slated to hit 2nd which means some Runs and SBs
24. B. Crosby (Pit) – Potential sleeper here, I think he wins job in ST
25. I. Desmond (Was) – Nationals seem committed, Guzman takes backseat

10 Games Played, 5 Games Started Criteria

Prospects
1. G. Green (Oak) – Future A’s SS could prove to be the steal of the 2010 Draft
2. S. Castro (ChC) – Many think he’ll debut in ’10, Theroit gets downgraded
3. T. Frazier (Cin) – Jocketty says he’ll play some SS, big in MI spot
4. T. Beckham (TB) – The former 1st RD pick still has a lot of upside
5. R. Brignac (TB) – With Bartlett & Beckham in-house, great trade bait
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:03 pm

6. Al. Ramirez (ChW) – 1st season at SS hurt 2nd half, expect better

I woudnt. Guillen is an idiot and will hit him 7th or 8th. That is what I expect. Maybe a bit more HRs, cause he had 7 HRs in June, so hes got power but only hit 7 in the other 5 month.
Oh and 7 of his 14 HRs came agains NL teams (3 cubs, 2 pirates). Not good.

He had an injury in the second half, beside that ankle injury in august? He missed about a week with that.
He played 148 games.

9. B. Zobrist (TB) - Where did that come from? Can he repeat?

in 2007 Zobrist hit 7 HRs in 222 ABs in AAA.
in 2008 he hit 4 HRs in 71 ABs in AAA and 12 HRs in 198 ABs in the Majors.
BTW you didnt question Aaron Hill.
4. A. Hill (Tor) – Proved that when he plays he can be great

What makes you think that you cant say the same about Zobrist?

I would swap Alexei and Zobrist in the rankings, but I like the rest. Good job.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:29 pm

Syfo-Dyas wrote:6. Al. Ramirez (ChW) – 1st season at SS hurt 2nd half, expect better

I woudnt. Guillen is an idiot and will hit him 7th or 8th. That is what I expect. Maybe a bit more HRs, cause he had 7 HRs in June, so hes got power but only hit 7 in the other 5 month.
Oh and 7 of his 14 HRs came agains NL teams (3 cubs, 2 pirates). Not good. He had an injury in the second half, beside that ankle injury in august? He missed about a week with that.
He played 148 games.

Well, I expect Ramirez to bat close to the top.

Syfo-Dyas wrote:4. A. Hill (Tor) – Proved that when he plays he can be grea
What makes you think that you cant say the same about Zobrist?
I would swap Alexei and Zobrist in the rankings, but I like the rest. Good job.


Hill proved what he could do in 2007 and has battled injuries ever since until last season. He's produced in multiple years, he's a year younger than Zobrist, produced at a younger age, and Hill will likely have a better spot in the lineup.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby garf112 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:22 pm

Too high
Aybar- too much empty average, no power, no speed
Furcal- I don't think he bounces back.

Too low

Cliff Pennington- I like him a lot.. right below Cabrera and Alcides Escobar
Brendan Ryan- maybe he was 26th on your list?
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:56 pm

garf112 wrote:Too high
Aybar- too much empty average, no power, no speed
Furcal- I don't think he bounces back.

Too low

Cliff Pennington- I like him a lot.. right below Cabrera and Alcides Escobar
Brendan Ryan- maybe he was 26th on your list?


I think Aybar is vastly underrated and if he stays atop the Angels order then he'll be productive. I could see Furcal failing again but I think his past injury will be far better healed in 2010.

I'm not a big fan of Pennington as he seems like a cheap in-house stop gap for the A's and that I think he may toil near the bottom of the lineup. I think it could be possible to see new draftee Green move quickly through the minors ala Longoria, Braun, and Tulo. No, I likely would have placed someone like Edgar Renteria or Alex Gonzalez at 26 and 27. Also, I'm still a fan of Jed Lowrie's potential or maybe more so less of a fan of Marco Scutaro.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Ender » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:24 am

Aybar has plenty of speed, he just doesn't steal much. He could be a 20 SB guy for sure if they just start sending him.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby garf112 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:44 am

the angels are one of the more aggressive teams regarding steals. i just think he doesn't know how to steal a base. you can be fast and not actually steal much. Aybar's SB success % in the minors was ugly, we're talking about 65%, and he never got much better at it. He continued that last year going 14/21. That is not a recipe for giving a guy the green light.

Pennington has 25 steal potential. While he wasn't hugely successful at the major league level last year (7/12), he has a history of stealing at a rate higher than 70% in the minors (27/31 at AAA last year).
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Padsin05 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:44 am

If Wood can be productive hes a nice SS value imo
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Havok1517 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:31 pm

Padsin05 wrote:If Wood can be productive hes a nice SS value imo


Right now Wood doesn't have SS eligibility. In fact, he may start the year with only Util as he didn't meet 5 GMs started 10 GMs played criteria.
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Re: Havok's 2010 Top 25 SS Rankings

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:44 pm

Is it worth paying the price for the 6-10 range of SS? Zobrist doesn't count because I like him much more but really Alexei, Drew, and Andrus. They seem like 8-11 round types this season and it seems like better value can be had elsewhere in those rounds. Waiting for a Hardy or Tejada several rounds later is sounding better and better after doing a few mocks.
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