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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:38 pm

AussieDodger wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:It's not the best deal, but better to have Valverde at 7 than someone like Gregg at anything.


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/2010-mlb-free-a.html

Kiko Calero (35) - Type B, not offered arb
Octavio Dotel (36) - Type A, not offered arb
John Smoltz (43)
Joaquin Benoit (32)
Chad Bradford (35)
Duaner Sanchez (30)


If you wanted a short-term closer these guys would be way, way, way cheaper then Valverde, and not completely horrible. :-?

Add Perry and Schlereth to that list
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby DaSh 1s » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:13 pm

OneLoveBoomer wrote:Whatever the case, fantasy wise this makes Valverde a nice closer option.


Hasn't he always been?
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby Dan Lambskin » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:53 pm

i'm starting to hate it less, but still not a big fan of it. i know draft picks are a crapshoot, but with the Tigers recent willingness to pay out big MiLB contracts they may have gotten Top 10 talent or better at pick #19. the silver lining is that they can always flip him at the deadline (this year or next year) if they arent in contention
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby DaSh 1s » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:58 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote: the silver lining is that they can always flip him at the deadline (this year or next year) if they arent in contention


This year: No one will assume a 10.5 million dollar contract for Valverde
Next Year: You will get nothing of worth for a half year of Valverde at 3.5
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:33 am

DaSh 1s wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:Edit: look at the return they got for Grandy/Jackson.....you're telling me you aren't taking that?


I may be biased, but I particularly don't think Austin Jackson is good. And this has been from following him throughout the Y Organization. And I think the Yankees sold high on Austin. If the Tigers, put him in the Majors to start the season, I think he will be overly exposed with his plate discipline.

Coke simply is not good, you will learn that yourself over time. Love Mad Max, tho.


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OBP= 0.3547
on pace for 98 Runs and 25 SB

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ERA = 2.596 (hasnt allowed an ER since May 30th)
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby StlSluggers » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:02 pm

I don't get it. Can you please explain it in words so I understand? O:-)
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby DaSh 1s » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:24 pm

Hey! this is fun! ;-D

Dan Lambskin wrote:Austin Jackson
AVG =0.3059
OBP= 0.3547
on pace for 98 Runs and 25 SB


His line since May 13th and on is 39/156 with 10 doubles, 8 BB to 43 K. That is a .250/.286/.314 line with an absolutely pathetic .600 OPS. Why are you using runs to judge him? He is a leadoff hitter? Of course he will get his Runs. But from May on he has been one of the worst lead off hitters in the game.

Lol, Gonna mightly struggle to accumulate 5 HR this year.

So what we have...a leadoff hitter that:
1.) One of the highest K% in the game
2.) Can not walk
3.) Can not hit for power
4.) Poor ability to get OB, even at passable clip

I mean, whatever floats your boat. Pitchers have made their adjustments, and now the ball is in his court.

Dan Lambskin wrote:Phil Coke
5-0
1 Save
ERA = 2.596 (hasnt allowed an ER since May 30th)
28K in 34.7 innings


Make what you want of Phil Coke. He didn't spend 6 seasons in the minors for no reason. Happy he has pitched extremely well these past three months, but you will learn of Long Ball Phil.


I am not evaluating that trade as of now because that trade will take a few years to put everything in perspective (Granderson LHP, Ajax maturing, Kennedy, etc), but Max Scherzer is a god amongst men. I love him, so so much.
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B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:31 pm

DaSh 1s wrote:If the Tigers, put him in the Majors to start the season, I think he will be overly exposed with his plate discipline.


i think you're severely discounting his AL Rookie Of The Month for April honors
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby DaSh 1s » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:34 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:
DaSh 1s wrote:If the Tigers, put him in the Majors to start the season, I think he will be overly exposed with his plate discipline.


i think you're severely discounting his AL Rookie Of The Month for April honors


Wait, I'm lost? :-?
You think Austin Jackson has displayed plate discipline this year?
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Valverde signs with Tigers

Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:41 pm

DaSh 1s wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:
DaSh 1s wrote:If the Tigers, put him in the Majors to start the season, I think he will be overly exposed with his plate discipline.


i think you're severely discounting his AL Rookie Of The Month for April honors


Wait, I'm lost? :-?
You think Austin Jackson has displayed plate discipline this year?

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