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2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby TribeIn2012 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:52 pm

Same deal here, just finished my pitching rankings. I narrowed it down to 120 starters, 30 closers and 30 relief pitchers. I am working on an overall top 300 that I will publish in the next day or two after I match hitter value vs. pitcher value. Here is my final list.

Starting Pitchers:
1 Lincecum, Tim
2 Hernandez, Felix
3 Halladay, Roy
4 Greinke, Zach
5 Sabathia, CC
6 Verlander, Justin
7 Haren, Dan
8 Lee, Cliff
9 Santana, Johan
10 Beckett, Josh
11 Johnson, Josh
12 Wainwright, Adam
13 Carpenter, Chris
14 Lester, Jon
15 Hamels, Cole
16 Gallardo, Yovani
17 Kershaw, Clayton
18 Jimenez, Ubaldo
19 Danks, John
20 Peavy, Jake
21 Nolasco, Rickey
22 Vazquez, Javier
23 Cain, Matt
24 Hanson, Tommy
25 Billingsley, Chad
26 Webb, Brandon
27 Lackey, John
28 Floyd, Gavin
29 Jurrjens, Jair
30 Rodriguez, Wandy
31 Weaver, Jered
32 Baker, Scott
32 Anderson, Brett
33 Oswalt, Roy
34 Garza, Matt
35 Burnett, A.J.
36 Zambrano, Carlos
37 Dempster, Ryan
38 Lilly, Ted
39 Scherzer, Max
40 Harden, Rich
41 Shields, James
42 Kazmir, Scott
43 De La Rosa, Jorge
44 Wolf, Randy
45 Price, David
46 Buehrle, Mark
47 Chamberlain, Joba
48 Bucholtz, Clay
49 Kuroda, Hiroki
50 Sanchez, Jonathon
51 Jackson, Edwin
52 Niemann, Jeff
53 Richard, Clayton
54 Strasburg, Stephen
55 Sheets, Ben
56 Bedard, Erik
57 Harang, Aaron
58 Liriano, Francisco
59 Arroyo, Bronson
60 Happ, J.A.
61 Zito, Barry
62 Pettitte, Andy
63 Porcello, Rick
64 Hudson, Tim
65 Myers, Brett
66 Maine, John
67 Lannan, John
68 Kawakami, Kenshin
69 Cueto, Johnny
70 Davis, Wade
71 Morrow, Brandon
72 Rowland-Smith, Ryan
73 Bergesen, Brad
74 Slowey, Kevin
75 Martinez, Pedro
76 Braden, Dallas
77 Masterson, Justin
78 Smoltz, John
79 Matsuzaka, Daisuke
80 Romero, Rickey
81 Cahill, Trevor
82 Blanton, Joe
83 Carmona, Fausto
84 Feldman, Scott
85 Penny, Brad
86 Garland, Jon
87 Pavano, Carl
88 Pinerio, Joel
89 Guthrie, Jeremy
90 Zimmerman, Jordan
91 Blackburn, Nick
92 Maholm, Paul
93 Duke, Zach
94 Cueto, Johnny
99 Sanchez, Anibal
96 Wells, Randy
97 Outman, Josh
98 Washburn, Jarrod
99 Saunders, Joe
100 Matusz, Brian
101 Laffey, Aaron
102 Wang, Chien-Meng
103 Holland, Derrek
104 Tillman, Chris
105 Young, Chris
106 Millwood, Kevin
107 Bannister, Brian
108 Lowe, Derek
109 Hunter, Tommy
110 Snell, Ian
111 Correria, Kevin
112 Marquis, Jason
113 Escobar, Kelvim
114 Uehara, Koji
115 Rzepczynski, Marc
116 Johnson, Randy
117 Garcia, Freddy
118 Gonzalez, Gio
119 LeBlanc, Wade
120 Padilla, Vincent

Closers:
1 Nathan, Joe
2 Rivera, Mariano
3 Papelbon, Jonathon
4 Broxton, Jonathon
5 Soria, Joakim
6 Soriano, Rafael
7 Bailey, Andrew
8 Bell, Heath
9 Rodriguez, Francisco
10 Street, Huston
11 Gonzalez, Mike
12 Hoffman, Trevor
13 Valverde, Jose
14 Wilson, Brian
15 Jenks, Bobby
16 Fuentes, Brian
17 Cordero, Francisco
18 Aardsma, David
19 Wagner, Billy
20 Nunez, Leo
21 Francisco, Frank
22 Wood, Kerry
23 Qualls, Chad
24 Franklin, Ryan
25 Downs, Scott
26 Gregg, Kevin
27 Hanrahan, Joel
28 Capps, Matt
29 Lidge, Brad
30 Zumaya, Joel

Relief Pitchers:
1 Madson, Ryan
2 Feliz, Neftali
3 Marmol, Carlos
4 Wilson, C.J.
5 Saito, Takashi
6 League, Brandon
7 Lindstrom, Matt
8 Zieglar, Brad
9 Sherrill, George
10 Rodney, Fernando
11 Howell, J.P.
12 Frasor, Jason
13 Hughes, Phil
14 Wheeler, Dan
15 Perez, Chris
16 Lyon, Brandon
17 Wuertz, Michael
18 Putz, J.J.
19 Thorton, Matt
20 Johnson, Jim
21 Hawkins, LaTroy
22 Gutierrez, Juan
23 Cordero, Chad
24 MacDougal, Mike
25 Betancourt, Rafael
26 Bard, Daniel
27 Dotel, Octovio
28 Rauch, Jon
29 Adams, Mike
30 Okajima, Hideki

Thoughts and Suggestions are more than welcome! ;-D
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby thedude » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:04 am

Beckett jumps out as being a little high to me. As does Javy Vazquez.
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby B-Chad » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:43 am

Scratch Jordan Zimmerman... he underwent TJ and will miss all of 2010 or at least up until September I'd imagine. Haven't looked in depth yet but his name jumped out.
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby TribeIn2012 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:14 am

B-Chad wrote:Scratch Jordan Zimmerman... he underwent TJ and will miss all of 2010 or at least up until September I'd imagine. Haven't looked in depth yet but his name jumped out.


Totally slipped my mind....thanks for the reminder man
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby drob681 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:46 am

I like the lists, they'll be a big help for sure. I'm curious about where Brandon Webb would fit into these rankings. I scanned quickly but didn't see him. what kind of projection do you have for him this year?
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby TribeIn2012 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:03 am

drob681 wrote:I like the lists, they'll be a big help for sure. I'm curious about where Brandon Webb would fit into these rankings. I scanned quickly but didn't see him. what kind of projection do you have for him this year?


I'm taking caution with him, ranking him 26th. I have him down for 163 IP, 14 W, 3.68 ERA, 1.30 WHIP and 130 K's.
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby OneLoveBoomer » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:18 am

Johan that low still is a surprise to me.

I don't know if I like Nathan as the #1 closer.
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby silverZ » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:22 am

Isn't Marmol going to be the cubs closer this year? I would put Frank Francisco up a few spots. Jason Frasor will probably close with Downs going back to a setup role. Broxton is my #1 closer because he's a good bet for 100 k's. I would move Capps up a few spots since he should be closing for the Nats.
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby Curtis Pride » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:55 pm

Santana is too high. But it's not just you, he's going to be too high on everyone's list.

He's no longer "Johan" like he was in the early part of the decade.

His BB rate his increased each of the past 5 years. His K rate has been cut by about 30% in the last few years. He's lost about 2-3 MPH on both his fastball and slider. His contact rate has gone down from the low 70%s to the high 70%s.

He's just definitely in decline. and even if we assume he's healthy and will pitch a full season, He's now a 180k 3.50 ERA 1.20 WHIP guy.

Also, Brett Anderson needs to be 10 spots higher.
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Re: 2010 Pitching Rankings

Postby Grounded Polo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:43 pm

John Danks is really high at 19, don't think he has the upside to go over guys like Peavy and Cain.

I'd also stick with Mo at #1. He struggles to walk a double digit amount of guys a season, you'll always get your money's worth with him but I guess Nathan is fine.

I'm hoping Ubaldo won't get drafted like he is ranked here but it wouldn't surprise me, would love to snag him again.
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