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Postby rupertoooo » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:24 pm

Dynasty H2H league with C/1B/2B/3B/SS/LF/CF/RF/U. You keep every player, there is no salary cap and their are no restrictions outside of transferring Minor Leaguers over if they start the year on the opening day roster. I took this pathetic team over from an owner who quit. I have dramatically improved my minor league roster, but the Major League team is well terrible. This is what I am working with.

I have offered Matt Kemp to the entire league and only one owner has interest. The good thing is this owner has tremendous talent and believe I could get fantastic value in return

I Have also thought about offering one owner Kemp for J. Hamilton and Ellsbury.


If you where in my shoes who would you ask for in return for Kemp.

My team
Benji Molina
Adam LaRoche
Lopez, Jose 2B SEA
Figgins, Chone 3B SEA
Chipper Jones 3B
Lind, Adam LF TOR
Kemp, Matt CF LA
Coghlan, Chris LF FLA
Johnny Damon LF FA
Vladimir Guererro U FA

Tim Hudson
Joel Piniero
Harang, Aaron SP CIN
Romero, Ricky SP TOR
Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC
Feliz, Neftali RP TEX
Gonzalez, Mike RP BAL
Fernando Rodney


My Minors:
Castro, Jason C HOU
Lawrie, Brett C MIL
Montero, Jesus C NYY M
Carter, Chris C. 1B OAK
Brown, Dominic OF PHI
Jennings, Desmond OF TB
Isaac Davis 1B NYYM

Chapman, Aroldis SP
Friedrich, Christian SP COL
Hudson, Daniel SP CHW
Mejia, Jenrry SP NYM M
Rondon, Hector SP CLE



His team
Martin, Russell C LA A
Youkilis, Kevin 1B BOS
Zobrist, Ben 2B TB A
Wright, David 3B NYM A
Ramirez, Hanley SS FLA A
Bay, Jason LF BOS
McCutchen, Andrew OF
Upton, Justin RF ARI
Abreu, Bobby RF ANA
Morneau, Justin 1B MIN
Victorino, Shane CF PHI


Cahill, Trevor SP OAK A
Gallardo, Yovani SP MIL
Lackey, John SP BOS A
Shields, James SP TB A
Davis, Wade SP TB A
Qualls, Chad RP ARI
Kershaw, Clayton SP LA
Vazquez, Javier SP NYY

His Minors
Norris, Derek C WAS M
Alonso, Yonder 1B CIN
Morrison, Logan 1B FLA
Smoak, Justin 1B TEX M
Decker, Jaff OF SD
Heyward, Jason OF ATL
Snider, Travis OF TOR

Crow, Aaron SP KC A
Matusz, Brian SP BAL A
McGee, Jake SP TB M
Parker, Jarrod SP ARI
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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR

Postby ayebatter » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Justin Upton & Jason Heyward.
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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR

Postby kmoneybags » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:51 pm

I would want Upton and one of Matusz/Wade Davis. Maybe even sending a pitcher his way for Upton/Kershaw.

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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR

Postby The Artful Dodger » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:16 pm

I would start high. Something like Justin Upton/Kershaw for Kemp alone.
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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR

Postby NY Knights » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:52 pm

I love Justin Upton, but why would the other guy trade him for Kemp? That's no shot at Kemp, just that they are pretty similar in stats make-up. If you can get him to do Upton and Kershaw, do it, but if he turns you down, you might need to go a different direction.

You didn't mention position requirements (CI? how many OF? Util?), but you could also use a banger 1B/CI, a SS and SP never hurts. I like the "start high" sentiment though. You can't do everything in one step, so you may need to just try to acquire talent. He's deep at 1B, OF, and SP, so that's what I'd ask for, figuring that's what he might most easily part with.

If not Upton, then how about Morneau, in some combination with (maybe pick 2) Kershaw, Zobrist (played 13 games at SS, don't know if that qualifies in your league), McCutchen or Matusz, throw him back an OF or a pitcher to make it go? That might sound like a lot, but if he says no make him counter, at least he'll know you want a few guys, and you will have established a potential structure for the deal.

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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR

Postby curl » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:00 am

I'd do definitely go after Upton and see what he says. But, I'd probably settle if I could get McCutcheon + Heyward + maybe one more prospect.
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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR/UPDATE

Postby rupertoooo » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:10 am

Thanks for all the feedback guys, but the chances of getting Upton are zip. I have thought about the Morneau route as well as a Victorino/Heyward/SP route. This guy is a savvy owner so getting one over on him is not going to happen. In all honesty this is how it would probably end up.

Morneau/Heyward or Victorino/Heyward/Cahill (although I would shoot for Matusz) or McCutchen/Heyward/Matusz (I would have to include one of my better prospects in this deal)

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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR/UPDATE

Postby ayebatter » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:47 pm

If the above is the case, keep Kemp. I like Heyward/McCutchen as much as anyone, but the team that gets the best player (Kemp) in this deal will come out ahead. Hold out for Upton, or look for another trade partner, even if you have to wait 'till later. You have the biggest gun to play in Kemp, don't be the prey, be the hunter.
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Re: Dnyasty Help/WHIR/UPDATE

Postby NY Knights » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:56 pm

How about Morneau, McCutchen, and Matusz? Can you throw him back Johnny Damon or Joel Pineiro? To me, those two are both sell-highs, coming off one of the best years in their career, but Damon is 36, Pineiro is 31 but it's the first time his ERA was under 4.33 since 2003, and both are free agents. I wouldn't want to part with Montero, Carter, Wallace, Brown, Jennings or Chapman.
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Re: Dynasty Help/WHIR/UPDATE

Postby PeteDog13 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:37 pm

I agree Upton and Kershaw is the starting point.
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