Dan Lambskin wrote:i relate it to no pressure situations (i.e. you havent had any work in 4 days, we're up/down by 4/5 runs, go get some work in)...are you really going to give your best effort in those situations?
If a player doesn't put his best effort every time he steps on the field, he's not worth $11 million.
Rocinante2: you know Rocinante2: its easy to dismiss the orioles as a bad team ofanrex: go on Rocinante2: i'm done Rocinante2: lmao
Dan Lambskin wrote:i relate it to no pressure situations (i.e. you havent had any work in 4 days, we're up/down by 4/5 runs, go get some work in)...are you really going to give your best effort in those situations?
If a player doesn't put his best effort every time he steps on the field, he's not worth $11 million.
That's irrelevant, Neato. What's wrong with not giving full, absolute 100 percent effort when your team is up by 4 or 5 runs in the last inning? It's basically a glorified bullpen session with the only caveat being you could absolutely implode and lose the game.
Dan Lambskin wrote:i relate it to no pressure situations (i.e. you havent had any work in 4 days, we're up/down by 4/5 runs, go get some work in)...are you really going to give your best effort in those situations?
If a player doesn't put his best effort every time he steps on the field, he's not worth $11 million.
That's irrelevant, Neato. What's wrong with not giving full, absolute 100 percent effort when your team is up by 4 or 5 runs in the last inning? It's basically a glorified bullpen session with the only caveat being you could absolutely implode and lose the game.
Wait, what?
Rocinante2: you know Rocinante2: its easy to dismiss the orioles as a bad team ofanrex: go on Rocinante2: i'm done Rocinante2: lmao
The problem with this whole 'non-save situation' is that you are looking at a ridiculously small sample size. In 2008 (and over his career) he has been better in low leverage situations than high leverage situations for example.
Because of sample size issues I'm not really convinced of any of this 'does terrible in non-save situtations' mumbo jumbo. Based on his career, his season overall last year is pretty much what you would expect from him. It just happened to be lucky for the Tigers that he blew up in non-save situations.
Neato Torpedo wrote:If a player doesn't put his best effort every time he steps on the field, he's not worth $11 million.
That's irrelevant, Neato. What's wrong with not giving full, absolute 100 percent effort when your team is up by 4 or 5 runs in the last inning? It's basically a glorified bullpen session with the only caveat being you could absolutely implode and lose the game.
Wait, what?
Most of the time, the only reason a guy like Rodney is brought in to pitch in a non-save situation is when he hasn't thrown in 4 or 5 days. They are just trying to work out his arm and get him some work. This often times leads to maybe giving up a few hits and a run or two. I don't think it's nearly as big a deal as you make it out to be, and the fact that there have never been questions about his work ethic makes the fact that LAA is paying him 11 million irrelevant because it must not be an issue.
Neato Torpedo wrote:Alright, then I'm going back to my original theory, where Rodney's work ethic is fine but he just sucks, and he's still not worth $11 million.
I can agree with that. I'm definitely glad Detroit didn't overpay to resign him.
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by DbacksRback » Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:32 pm 
