Unique league, 10 team, 5x5 roto style, each guy took over two rosters, one National League Team and one American League team and their respective rosters, salaries, and farm systems. Then we made cuts and trades, etc. We have a 175,000,000 salary cap. Currently my money looks like this:
for My:SP Scott Baker $750,000 (2012) (2013x) OF Carlos Gomez $437,500 (2013) OF Aaron Hicks (minor leaguer) SS Miguel Jean (Sano) (minor leaguer)
Now players for players it looks good but taking on Manny's huge salary is the downside. I would be acquiring 25, 475,000 in salary and losing only 1,187,500 giving me a net gain of about 24,000,000 leaving me with only about 29,000,000 to spend on six players in the FA bidding. But is getting Manny and Bills worth it? I could probably get the deal done without giving up Hicks too if that makes any difference. Let me know what you guys think. Here is my roster:
The Rotation: SP Tim Lincecum (SF - SP) $650,000 (2012) SP Jonathan Sanchez (SF - SP) $455,000 (2012) SP Ryan Sandowski (SF - SP) $300,000 (2014) SP Ted Lilly (CHC-SP) $12,000,000 (2010) SP Scott Baker $750,000 (2012) (2013x) SP Kevin Slowey $440,000 (2013) SP Francisco Liriano $430,000 (2011) SP Nick Blackburn $440,000 (2013) SP Brian Duensing $400,000 (2014) SP Boof Bonser $450,000 (2011) SP John Lannan $424,000 (2013)
The Bullpen RP Jeremy Affeldt (SF - RP) $3,000,000 (2010) RP Sergio Romo (SF - RP) $400,000 (2014) RP Merkin Valdez (SF - RP) $400,000 (2014) RP Joe Nathan $11,250,000 (2011) (2012x) RP Jose Mijares $400,000 (2014) RP RP RP Jon Rauch $2,000,000 (2009) (2010x) RP RP Pat Neshek $440,000 (2011)
The Infield 1B/3B Mark Reynolds (Hou-1B/3B) $422,500 3B Aramis Ramirez (CHC-3B) $15,650,000 SS Ryan Theriot (CHC-SS) $500,000 2B Chase Utley (PH-2B) 11,000,000 1B Travis Ishikawa (SF - 1B) $400,000 (2014) 2B Eugenio Velez (SF - 2B) $404,000 (2014) C Jorge Posada (NYY - C) $13,100,000 (2011) 1B Justin Morneau $10,600,000 (2013) 2B Dan Uggla 1B/3B Jorge Cantu
The Outfield Alfonso Soriano (CHC-OF) $16,000,000 Fred Lewis (SF - OF) $440,000 (2012) Nate Schierholtz (SF - OF) $400,000 (2013) Delmon Young $1,152,000 (2012) Michael Cuddyer $6,750,000 (2010) (2011x) Jason Kubel $2,750,000 (2010) (2011x) Carlos Gomez $437,500 (2013) Jacoby Ellsbury $450,000 (2013) Nolan Reimold $400,000 (2014)
Wow - that is a really interesting and in depth league structure. After my initial read through, I *think* I like the deal for you.
You're adding production on offense and pitching (I think Bills will bounce back from his poor second half) and not completely breaking the bank. Even if you end up capped out this year, it looks like Manny will be gone in '11 and you'll still have Bills, right?
Yeah I think I take Billingsley and one year of Manny as well. That said, 25 M in that league is quite a reach, so to take on that salary I would see if I could keep one of the 2 minor leaguers and see if the other guy is that set on stopping the deal for a minor leaguer. You can always back off and just do he deal.
Well, I already tried that and he said he wouldn't do it without my minor leaguers but he would add Zach Britton, minor league SP on his side to the deal. So, you think I should do it?
I like the deal since you have a lot of salary room and are not stuck with a 25M manny for more than the one year and you get to upgrade to Billingsley over Baker which is real nice. As to the minor leaguers, I do not follow them that closely to make a comment on one over the other there and unless either of them is the next sure thing (haha I know), I do not think they factor in to any great degree. Just trading prospects. Asuming you have the roster and cap space to take on the extra minor league player though , I see no reason not to if you like the deal.
That said, you have a LOT of money left so the real questions should be are the free agents available top quality players and how many teams are flush with cash to drive the price\auction inflation up? You might be better served just buying your players with tthe money you have lef, esp if you sit in a good position moneywise over your opponents and can push them around as such.
Well, there are a lot of teams that even look better than me as far as cap room goes. Well, at least a few. One guy has been trading away all his top salary guys so he can bid heavily on Bay and Holliday who are available in the FA class. You can get an idea of who is available as the players in real life that are free agents are free agents going into our bidding in a couple of days. With that being said, you know that there isn't a ton of talent out there to bid on. So, I thought I would take this deal and be set and then just buy low end guys to fill my roster. What do you think?
If you have to worry about a couple of guys outbidding you on the couple of players you want/need, then I do the deal if it nets me a pitching upgrade longterm to boot. You likely may need to go to 20+M to get Holliday or Bay anyway.
I am not one to value minor leaguers highly, but as long as you are not trading away elite\can't miss ones it is no big deal there imo. Worst case is you get Manny and upgrade to Billingsley and they get Bay or Holliday at the auction at a very high pricetag. Of course if Manny gets hurt or decides he is not interested in playing hard this year, you are sort of burned for 2010, but that's the breaks.
I like the deal for you. Can you tell us some of the names that you'd be bidding on (this year's FA class?) so we have a better idea of what the $ will buy you. I'd probably ask him about including Soriano. I'm sure you'd have to chip in another player or two (maybe prospects?) or maybe some cash if that's allowed, but that might save you some money to spend on FAs this year.
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