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Postby Ignatz » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:58 pm

I'm in a 10 team league. The scoring settings are pretty much standard with only OPS and Losses added into the mix.

The only unique aspect of this league is that we each have two additional infield spots on your roster: Middle infield (2b/ss) and corner infield (1b/3b).

We are allowed to keep four players, and I'm already planning on keeping Miguel Cabrera and Ian Kinsler, but I'm in need of some suggestions on who I should keep for my other two spots.

Players I'm considering for final two spots:

Aaron Hill
Joey Votto
Adam Lind
Curtis Granderson
Zach Greinke
Johan Santana

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Postby DaShiz23 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:06 pm

Under normal circumstances, I would usually advise against keeping many pitchers, but with your list, I think keeping both Johan and Greinke would be the way to go. With only 40 players being kept, you can focus on offense early and have many great options. You would have to figure both of these pitchers would be gone during the first round of your upcoming draft. I just don't see any of the others being what amounts to 3rd or 4rth round picks in a 10 teamer.
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Postby HOOTIE » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:07 pm

Greinke
Santana

Votto is close.
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Postby jrad32 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:09 pm

I think you keep Grienke and Hill. Santana's elbow was giving him problems last year and I wonder if this is the year he goes down.

Hill and Kinsler gives you two top players in the scarce middle infield.
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Postby ensanimal » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:10 pm

Greinke is the easy one. After that is between Santana and Votto. Depending on the day I could choose either one. Slight edge Santana I guess.
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Re: First time keeper league owner in need of some help.

Postby Ignatz » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:39 pm

Thanks for the advice!

It's going to be a tough choice for me. It seems you guys are in favor of me going pitching, which goes against my usual draft philosophy of going all offense early. Maybe this season I'll experiment with taking more pitching in the early rounds. Last season I lucked out and had Santana, Carpenter, Halladay(trade), and Greinke on my team, which was a nice windfall considering I was mainly focused on drafting bats.
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Postby sweettortilla » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:07 pm

Is trading keepers allowed? Generally speaking, I like keeping offensive weapons for keepers, more than arms. However, I agree w/ everyone else that Greinke and Santana are the best keepers of the rest.

However, could you move Greinke and/or Santana to someone to get a really nice bat? Maybe someone out there has only one really solid keeper and is willing to give him up for the two of your guys. Then you could keep Votto or someone else from your list and have a nicely upgraded roster.

Don't get me wrong, I like both santana & greinke, but they are both riskier propositions than say a Ryan Howard or David Wright for the long term.

Good luck!

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Postby Fantasy Star » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:15 am

With OPS as an additional cat. I would absolutley not let Votto go. He was a beast last year across the board (when he was not on the dl). I'm not one to keep pitchers so I'd go with Hill as your other keeper. 10 team leagues are loaded with pitching, don't keep a pitcher with such a limited amount of keepers.

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Postby NY Knights » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:38 pm

I have questions about Hill. He had an outstanding 2009, but historically he hasn't been a power hitter - in 1720 previous major league at bats (about the equivalent of 3 full seasons) he hit a total of 28 HRs. Same in the minors. He's always hit for average, but me personally, I wouldn't draft him in the 3rd/4th round (where he's being projected), not if Roberts, Cano, Phillips, Zobrist (maybe even Beckham) could be taken later. Hill went 103-36-108-6-.829 OPS but a Dan Uggla went 84-31-90-2-.813 and he'll go probably 6 rounds later. Maybe I'll miss out on getting in on the ground floor, but I'd like to see Hill do it again.

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Re: First time keeper league owner in need of some help.

Postby chargerss24 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:21 pm

Meh, I'd stay way from Santana from a keeper standpoint. Elbow troubles gives meet the heebie-jeebies. Try to land him in your draft/auction.

I would keep Greinke, that way, you would have a legit ace on your staff. OPS as a stat? Votto without a question. The guy is an animal and hopefully, he has put his personal troubles behind him.

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