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Postby kidsilk » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:39 pm

14 team, dynasty league, 10x10 roto style. I am weak in pitching as you will see and adding Sabathia would be huge. But is it worth giving up two of my best prospects for him? This is what I have been offered:

CC for Heyward + 2nd rd draft pick in minor league draft
CC for Heyward + John Mayberry Jr
CC for Heyward + Chris Tillman
CC for Heyward + Joulys Chacin

He told me to just pick one of them.

He really wants Heyward and he is a stud but would it be worth trading him and a second player or draft pick for CC?

Here is my Team:

C: Jared Saltalamacchia, Russel Martin
1B: Mark Teixeira
2B: Brandon Phillips,
3B: Garrett Atkins
SS: JJ Hardy
OF: Ryan Braun, Carlos Lee, Alex Rios, Nelson Cruz, Cody Ross, Corey Hart, Michael Cameron, Ryan Ludwick

SP: AJ Burnett, Jason Hammel, Joba Chamberlain, Zach Duke, Mike Pelfrey, Braden Looper, Doug Davis,
RP: Mike Gonzalez, Frank Fransisco, Fransisco Cordero

Minors: Will Inmann, Michael Bowden, Jason Heyward, Chris Tillman, Jhoulys Chacin, John Mayberry Jr, Adam Miller
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby cardinal1975 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:56 pm

I think I would rather have Heyward long term but if you are convinced you need starting pitching more than an all star outfielder and you can contend right now I could understand making the deal. CC is a top 10 SP and should be one for the next few years. If you did make any of the deals only give up Mayberry with Heyward as opposed to Tillman or Chacin who both could be contributers to your pitching in 2010.
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby MaudDib » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:30 pm

You do really need SP but CC has put up a lot of innings over the past few years and it wouldn't surprise many if he went down at some point next year. SP are so volatile that I would stick with Heyward who has the potential to be very good. I think Heyward has some questions marks and is no sure thing but I would rather have the hitter long term than a SP.
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:53 pm

Now, he says he is not interested in Mayberry JR. but would do any of the other deals. What if I asked him to do Heyward for CC straight up?
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:18 pm

Or should I ask for another player in return to even things out? I know Heyward is great but what if he becomes another Delmon Young? YOu never know. And I would be getting a top 5 starting pitcher.

Here is his roster:

Minors: Mike Moustakas, Fautino De Los Santos, Freddie Freeman, Jake Arrieta, Michael Saunders, Reid Brignac, Lars Anderson, Fernando Martinez

C: Brian McCann, Miguel Montero
1B: Joey Votto
2B: Aaron Hill, Asdrubal Cabrera
3B: Martin Prado
SS: Yunel Escobar, Alcides Escobar
OF: Nolan Reimold, Adam Jones, Raul Ibanez, Jordan Schafer

SP: CC Sabathia, Tommy Hanson, Justin Masterson, Daniel Hudson, Tim Hudson, Sean West, Kenshin Kawakami, Sean Gallagher, Brad Bergesen, Jordan Zimmerman, Randy Wells
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby curl » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:28 pm

I'm personally drinking the kool-aid on Heyward right now. But even if I wasn't, I just can't seem to trust Sabathia. I got to see him play a lot in Cleveland and I just can't shake the feelings that with such poor condition he's been in over the years, that he's going to break down sooner than later.
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby govols9er » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:01 pm

Do you want to win now, or maybe win down the road. CC=Sure thing minor league players=???????? Delmon Young anyone???
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:16 pm

Now the other guy says he will throw in Alicedes Escobar and a 3rd round pick in the upcoming minor league draft but he wants Tillman and Heyward. What do you think?
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby cardinal1975 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:24 pm

Tillman could be a front line starter in fantasy. Escobar is solid but lacks power and his upside is more of a .300/.360/.400ish type slash line with 30 steals. It's solid and safe as a prospect goes but that is the exact type of line most owners will be constantly looking to upgrade once they get it. If you want to pull the trigger on a Heyward for CC deal then just make it Heyward for CC and forget the other stuff. CC will help you now IF you can contend with your present roster, but you will need Tillman down the road. If has to get a pitcher from you give him Bowden but not Tillman or Chacin who should be at least #3 starters by 2011.

I might even ask for T.Hanson/McCann for Heyward/R.Martin which would upgrade your catcher and get you a young stud pitcher. This is the type of deal I would be looking at if you would be moving Heyward. ;-D
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Re: Should I trade two prospects for CC?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:04 pm

Now the offer that is on the table is:

CC, Alicedes Escobar, 2nd round pick in minor league draft for Heyward and Chacin. I don't think Chacin will make that much of an impact this season as he most likely will be coming out of the bullpen and will be pitching at Coors Field and I get to keep Tillman. Losing Heyward is tough but who is to say that he is a for sure thing?

Should I pull the trigger and try to win this year or look to the future and keep my prospects? I am leaning towards pulling the trigger on this one.
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