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Postby scotto63 » Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:54 am

Im in a 12 team auction keeper league(5 x 5 OBP instead of AVG).You get to keep up to 6 players per year.You get to sign each player you keep to a 1,2 or 3 yr contract.Each year the player is signed his salary goes up $5.Can you tell me which of the 6 players with next year's salary included would you keep.(How long 1,2 or 3 yrs)and why.


K Slowey $9
N Cruz $18
J werth $13
K Morales $9
A HIll $6
C Marmol $6
N Feliz $6
Z Greinke $26
R Nolaso $11 already signed for next year
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Postby Johnny Tuttle » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:12 pm

Greinke & Feliz for 3-year contracts for cost certainty & great pitching.

Then for me, it's 3 of 4 hitters: Hill, Cruz, Werth, and Morales. At that price, I'd likely go with Morales for 3-years. The length of the contracts for the other fellows is hard to say without knowing your total cap. I've gambled on the three guys I think worth locking into a stable 3-year commmitment.

Werth and Cruz: are they overpriced? I can't tell. I'd take whichever one is more cap friendly on a shorter deal, and I'd likely gamble on a 3-year for Hill. He could regress a bit at 2B and still look good.
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Postby scotto63 » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:23 pm

Its a $260 dollar auction league
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Postby MaudDib » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:23 pm

Johnny Tuttle wrote:Greinke & Feliz for 3-year contracts for cost certainty & great pitching.

Then for me, it's 3 of 4 hitters: Hill, Cruz, Werth, and Morales. At that price, I'd likely go with Morales for 3-years. The length of the contracts for the other fellows is hard to say without knowing your total cap. I've gambled on the three guys I think worth locking into a stable 3-year commmitment.

Werth and Cruz: are they overpriced? I can't tell. I'd take whichever one is more cap friendly on a shorter deal, and I'd likely gamble on a 3-year for Hill. He could regress a bit at 2B and still look good.

I agree with most of what he said. I think Werth or Cruz are good values now but would quickly become over priced if you sign them much longer than 2 years and Cruz could be over priced after just one year.
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Postby RDD15 » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:30 pm

I dont like Grienke for a 3 year deal. In fact, I dont know that I would ever sign a pitcher to a 2 year deal, and maybe not more than a 1 year deal. Even if he stays healthy, you are counting on him to stay good enough to be worth $41, which is pretty high for any SP, not to mention one you are speculating on 3 years down the road.
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Postby Johnny Tuttle » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:53 pm

Ouch. I completely misunderstood the premise. If you have to guarantee any player signed to a multi-year deal a $5 raise each year during the deal, then sign no one to 3-year or even 2-year deals. Make them earn the $5 raise. Why have longer term contracts if you don't gain cost certainty for committing to extra years?

I still like the same players I tabbed earlier, but I'd never give out anything more than 1-year deals if I'm understanding now the context of the league.
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Postby RDD15 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:48 am

Johnny Tuttle wrote:Ouch. I completely misunderstood the premise. If you have to guarantee any player signed to a multi-year deal a $5 raise each year during the deal, then sign no one to 3-year or even 2-year deals. Make them earn the $5 raise. Why have longer term contracts if you don't gain cost certainty for committing to extra years?

I still like the same players I tabbed earlier, but I'd never give out anything more than 1-year deals if I'm understanding now the context of the league.


I sort of disagree with NEVER giving more than a 1 year deal. If you drafted Adam Lind last year at $1, you might be happy paying him $16 in year 3 of his longterm deal. Pitchers are trickier. If you got Gavin Floyd for a buck last year, or Jered Weaver for 2 bucks, maybe you grab them for 3 years (Floyd I wouldn't, Weaver I might, but probably not). With hitters, you can find players and deals where a 3 year contract can make sense, and pretty regularly at that.

With pitchers, the 3 year options are going to be few and far between. Any pitcher that was drafted for $10 or more becomes really scary to hitch your wagon to for 3 more years. There will be a few guys at $5 or less that you might go to 3 years on, but not many of them.
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