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by **knapplc** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:46 am

What do you think of these two? Are they cheeky heroes who played the prank of all pranks, are they attention-seeking glory hounds, are they being misrepresented as crashers, or are they criminals?

Who should hold the blame here? Is it the couple? Is it the Secret Service? Or what combination?

EDIT - Story and link. Sorry, I thought everyone knew about this....

LINK 1

LINK 2

Some background:

CNN wrote:Washington (CNN) -- Two people without invitations crashed President Obama's first White House state dinner, the U.S. Secret Service said Wednesday.

The Secret Service confirmed a Washington Post report that the couple who crashed Tuesday night's dinner were Tareq and Michaele Salahi. The Post described the couple as polo-playing socialites from northern Virginia.

A Secret Service checkpoint "did not follow proper procedures" to determine if the two were on the guest list for the dinner, said Edwin M. Donovan, a Secret Service special agent, in a statement.

by **Tavish** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:59 am

I'd hit it. And the chick is pretty cute too.

by **Omaha Red Sox** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:02 am

Definitely a combination of blame. First of all, it's scary as hell that this happened in the first place. That they were able to get past the 'best security in the world' and basically make a mockery of it is preposterous to say the least. So that's where the blame starts, but we can't ignore the couple's actions either, which were obviously illegal/unlawful.

by **knapplc** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:14 am

I want to hear from the Secret Service how they got in. I want to know, step by step, how they got past check point one, check point two, etc.

It seems to me like someone inside had to get them in. The only other alternative is that our Secret Service is a bunch of bumbling idiots, in which case I don't see Obama living out his first term in office.

by **Metroid** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:21 am

Huh? Link? Story? Brief rundown? Nothing? :-S

by **ayebatter** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:23 am

It's the old, look like you belong, act like you belong, and maybe they'll let you in, isn't that how the 'King' got there.

by **knapplc** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:25 am

Metroid wrote:Huh? Link? Story? Brief rundown? Nothing?

Fixed the OP.

by **Metroid** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:44 am

knapplc wrote:
Metroid wrote:Huh? Link? Story? Brief rundown? Nothing?

Fixed the OP.

Thanks. Most of my time is spent focusing on school, when it's not it's spent focusing on football. The rest of the time is spent with Shannon and any extra is for eating. I haven't been keeping up on current events to say the least.

by **Big Pimpin** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:58 pm

knapplc wrote:The only other alternative is that our Secret Service is a bunch of bumbling idiots, in which case I don't see Obama living out his first term in office.

I think this is exactly the case. I have two law enforcement buddies, one who used to work for the Secret Service but left this past year to go to another agency and one who is a SWAT officer, and we've actually had conversations about this in the past. During Obama's visit several months ago, it turns out that while the Secret Service was high-fiving and celebrating getting the POTUS to his destination safely, they also weren't paying very close attention and several people ended up getting way closer than they ever should have. The word at that point was that the Secret Service just wasn't taking very good care of him.

Anyway, I may not be a fan of anything he's ever done, but I still think it would be terrible if he got assassinated. So hopefully this is a wake up call and they get their act together.