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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby Dan Lambskin » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:53 pm

Captain Furtah wrote:
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Pogotheostrich wrote:
The can't hit LHP is a huge strike against him IMO. Are teams really going to give up top prospects for a guy that should be platooned?


and has this contract :-o

Curtis Granderson

5 years/$30.25M (2008-13), plus 2014 club option

signed extension with Detroit 2/4/08
08:$1M, 09:$3.5M, 10:$5.5M, 11:$8.25M, 12:$10M, 13:$13M club option ($2M buyout)
2013 option increases to:

$15M if MVP (1st - 5th) in 2011 or 2012

$14M if All Star in 2011 or 2012

$13.5M if All Star selection in 2011 or 2012

award bonuses: $25,000 each for All Star, Gold Glove; $50,000 for Silver Slugger; $75,000 for LCS MVP; $0.1M for MVP, WS MVP


hey buddy this is 2009. A 5.5 (or even 8.25 or 10) million dollar contract for someone with his skills is not that bad, and for the numbers he has, and is likely to put up is probably a little low.

Also what does 13.5 million if all star selection and 14 million if all star supposed to mean?

And, would you be willing to pay an extra $375,000 to a player who went to an all star game, won both the gold glove and silver slugger awards and was the MVP of the LCS, WS and SEASON? You talk about the bonuses like they are a risk for a team.

This post is a joke


Granderson is one of my favorite Tigers, but if you can get something of value for him i think you have to consider taking it. Cabrera is due to make $20M+ in 2010 and beyond...Verlander is going to be commanding that kind of cash soon too.

i just dont see them being a strong contender in 2010 because they arent going to spend the money on a FA 2B, Closer and 8th inning guy and they dont have any viable replacements, not to mention Mags and Guillen are another year older, so why not get younger, clear your bad contracts and then make a run at some top FA's in a few years

i'm not saying dump him for scrubs, but i just dont see a guy who cant hit LHP, K's a ton and doesnt walk due to make 10M+ being untouchable
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby pjalst » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:17 pm

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pjalst wrote:Adrian Gonzalez with a supporting staff? The thought is frightening :-o


To say nothing of the fact that he'd be somewhere else besides Petco for half his games...


45-50 Hr? :-?

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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby thedude » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:53 pm

pjalst wrote:
Inukchuk wrote:
pjalst wrote:Adrian Gonzalez with a supporting staff? The thought is frightening :-o


To say nothing of the fact that he'd be somewhere else besides Petco for half his games...


45-50 Hr? :-?

110 R
130 RBI


That batting average would climb too.

His home and away splits are pretty telling:

Petco: 12 Hr .244 Ba .413 OBP .446 Slg%
Away: 28 Hr .306 Ba .402 Obp .643 Slg%
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby Frenchiegangsta9 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:43 pm

thedude wrote:
pjalst wrote:
Inukchuk wrote:
To say nothing of the fact that he'd be somewhere else besides Petco for half his games...


45-50 Hr? :-?

110 R
130 RBI


That batting average would climb too.

His home and away splits are pretty telling:

Petco: 12 Hr .244 Ba .413 OBP .446 Slg%
Away: 28 Hr .306 Ba .402 Obp .643 Slg%


Wow, didnt realize that his splits were that different. Sounds like Ryan Howard with a better avg...
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby bigken117 » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:20 am

Dan Lambskin wrote: Cabrera is due to make $20M+ in 2010 and beyond...


Are the Tigers going to try to unload him instead? To get that kind of $$ off the books teams usually take less talent in return
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby Bloody Sox » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:46 am

and has this contract :-o

Curtis Granderson

5 years/$30.25M (2008-13), plus 2014 club option

signed extension with Detroit 2/4/08
08:$1M, 09:$3.5M, 10:$5.5M, 11:$8.25M, 12:$10M, 13:$13M club option ($2M buyout)


So Curtis Granderson is not worth $8.5M per year over the next three seasons (if the buyout is exercised after 2012)? Really? :-?
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby Dan Lambskin » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:31 pm

Bloody Sox wrote:
and has this contract :-o

Curtis Granderson

5 years/$30.25M (2008-13), plus 2014 club option

signed extension with Detroit 2/4/08
08:$1M, 09:$3.5M, 10:$5.5M, 11:$8.25M, 12:$10M, 13:$13M club option ($2M buyout)


So Curtis Granderson is not worth $8.5M per year over the next three seasons (if the buyout is exercised after 2012)? Really? :-?


it's not the worst contract in the world, but if he cant improve vs LHP it's a lot for a platoon player...and i'm not saying the should trade him, but if they can get a great package then they should consider it
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby MaudDib » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:29 pm

Here is an article Fangraphs did on this rumor.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... rson-rumor
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby ensanimal » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:57 pm

From Rotoworld....

MLB.com has learned that the Blue Jays may allow another team a window to negotiate a contract extension with Roy Halladay should a trade be consummated.

The reasoning behind a window being granted lies with the fact that the Blue Jays would likely receive a better package for Halladay if a contract extension could be signed. Former general manager J.P. Ricciardi would not grant such an extension. It's becoming more and more obvious that new GM Alex Anthopoulos has a far better handle on how to go about trading a superstar.
Source: MLB.com



Anyone see him getting dealt before the start of the season? :-?
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Re: Hot Stove News/Rumors

Postby mweir145 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:04 pm

It's completely up to Paul Beeston. Ricciardi and now AA were simply puppets in this respect.

Personally, I would be surprised if Beeston allowed a trade to go down. But maybe he is more committed to rebuilding than I think.
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