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Who do you like for the NL Cy Young in 2009?

Tim Lincecum
14
41%
Chris Carpenter
5
15%
Adam Wainwright
12
35%
Dan Haren
1
3%
Javier Vazquez
2
6%
 
Total votes : 34

NL Cy Young?

Postby Nerfherders » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:00 pm

Who's it going to be?
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:18 pm

Lincecum. I think Wainwright could have stolen it if he got 20 wins but now I don't see how Lincecum doesn't win.
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby Big Pimpin » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:31 pm

Lincecum clearly deserves it. But the Bill James formula likes Wainwright.
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby Ender » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:08 pm

I'd have to go with Wainwright. He has pitched more innings, has just as good an ERA and has more wins than Lincecum and his team is going to the playoffs. I don't see how the voters will pass on him.

The best pitcher in the NL this year has probably been Vazquez (Lincecum is a very close 2nd and Haren a close 3rd) and I doubt he even gets a vote though.
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:52 pm

we all know it's about wins: wainwright.
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby zhutou » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:56 pm

Ender wrote:I'd have to go with Wainwright. He has pitched more innings, has just as good an ERA and has more wins than Lincecum and his team is going to the playoffs. I don't see how the voters will pass on him.

The best pitcher in the NL this year has probably been Vazquez (Lincecum is a very close 2nd and Haren a close 3rd) and I doubt he even gets a vote though.


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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby mweir145 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:56 pm

Carpenter.
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby JTWood » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:05 pm

Big Pimpin wrote:Lincecum clearly deserves it. But the Bill James formula likes Wainwright.

What am I missing there? I see three people (one's a closer!) ahead of Lincecum. :-?
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:56 pm

JTWood wrote:
Big Pimpin wrote:Lincecum clearly deserves it. But the Bill James formula likes Wainwright.

What am I missing there? I see three people (one's a closer!) ahead of Lincecum. :-?

That list is "most likely to be voted Cy Young", not "most deserving of it". I mean, there are certain occasions when the winner of an award isn't the most deserving, right?
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Re: NL Cy Young?

Postby Ender » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:18 am

zhutou wrote:
Ender wrote:I'd have to go with Wainwright. He has pitched more innings, has just as good an ERA and has more wins than Lincecum and his team is going to the playoffs. I don't see how the voters will pass on him.

The best pitcher in the NL this year has probably been Vazquez (Lincecum is a very close 2nd and Haren a close 3rd) and I doubt he even gets a vote though.


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Vazquez has better peripherals than any other pitcher in the NL, plays in a tougher division than Haren or Lincecum and in about the same style park as Lincecum at least. If you want to go by actual talent displayed this year alone Vazquez has had the best season.
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