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Postby Maris09 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:08 am

12 team H2H, non-keeper, 5x5 (with OPS and K/9 added, also QS instead of Wins)

Votto is slumping, and even though I feel he'll pull out of it soon, I'm wondering if this is a good idea anyway.

C- Mauer
1B- Teix
2B- Alexei
3B- MCab (traded Holliday and Greinke at beginning of year)
SS- OCab
CI- Votto
MI- Peralta/Kendrick
OF- Rios
OF- Kubel
OF- Ethier
OF- Morgan
UTIL- Adam LaRoche
BN- Peralta
BN- F.Lopez


SP- Lincecum (traded Manny for him at beginning of year)
SP- Carpenter
SP- Nolasco
SP- Buchholz
RP- Soria
RP- Broxton
RP- Street
BN- Zito
BN- Richard

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Re: ---Trade Votto for Johan?---

Postby briane » Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:30 am

Pitching depth seems to be a little undervalued in this league (7 starters v. 12 offense, vs. traditional 9 v. 14), so that makes it closer than usual. I think Johan is more valuable in a vacuum. As well, your offensive replacement (Peralta/Lopez, with LaRoche moving to CI) is a big drop, probably bigger than Buchholz to Johan (but maybe not Zito to Johan). If you stream SP (lineup changes every day, unlimited innings, use all your pitchers every time they start), I'd consider it, but, if you just start the same SP for a week at a time, I'd pass.

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Re: ---Trade Votto for Johan?---

Postby bigh0rt » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:26 am

With Adam LaRoche finally coming around, as we all expected, albeit a little later than anticipated, I'd probably do this. LaRoche may very well outperform Votto the rest of the season at the CI spot, and then I'd just keep my eyes open for a potential short term impact bat who can fill your Util. slot. Even a guy like Alcides Escobar could help you win SB, etc. -- players like that. I'd probably do this deal.
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Re: ---Trade Votto for Johan?---

Postby Ravens Black » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:42 am

When I first saw this I was thinkning "Real dumb question" of course you do this trade. Though I looked at the set up and your team and, like the first responder, I don't think you should. Your pitching is strong already, based on it's make up im sure your one of the better pitching teams in your league. I also dont trust LaRoche. I was thinkning moving him to CI and step up Peralta at Util. but I still don't like it. Stick with your guns or get him to up the ante based on what we are saying here. It makes sense.
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Re: ---Trade Votto for Johan?---

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:43 am

Is Peralta eligible at 3B in your league? You could slide him into your CI spot. I'd still probably do this deal. There's no assurance that Votto will turn things around anyways.
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Re: ---Trade Votto for Johan?---

Postby B-Chad » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:47 pm

I would probably do this deal and then cut one of your bottom starters for a hot bat or September call-up (perhaps Travis Snider if he's available).
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