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Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby sweettortilla » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:07 pm

Hello fellow fantasy fanatics!

With just a few weeks left in the season, I'm in a tight race for a wildcard spot. My shot of making the playoffs is there, but it's not certain. The league trade deadline is Aug. 21. The league is 10 team, head to head. We get to keep five. I've listed below the five I plan on keeping.

So, I got the following offer from another contender for the same playoff spot:

I give:

Phillips & Verlander

I get:

Ubaldo Jimenez & Kinsler

I've been a fan of Kinsler for some time and so now I'm torn. He's out for now, and you never know how long it'll take for him to rehab, although they're saying he'll be back quick. Phillips has performed acceptably, so I'm not getting killed at 2B.

I like his youth. I might take this deal, and try to move Howard for Braun, to get younger and stronger in OF for next year. But I have no idea if Braun's owner would take it. I'm also a Jimenez fan long term too. UGH. I'm very conflicted.

Puhleaze....help me out :)

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Martinez, Victor C BOS - KEEPER
Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET - KEEPER
Phillips, Brandon 2B CIN
Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC
Tulowitzki, Troy SS COL - KEEPER
Lee, Carlos N. LF HOU
Lind, Adam LF TOR
Werth, Jayson RF PHI
Howard, Ryan 1B PHI - KEEPER
Willingham, Josh OF WAS
Berkman, Lance 1B HOU (DL)

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Aardsma, David RP SEA
De La Rosa, Jorge SP COL
Floyd, Gavin SP CHW
Howell, J.P. RP TB
Lidge, Brad RP PHI
Street, Huston RP COL
Verlander, Justin SP DET - KEEPER
Cecil, Brett SP TOR
Fuentes, Brian RP ANA
Jurrjens, Jair SP ATL
Masterson, Justin SP CLE
Price, David SP TB
Soriano, Rafael RP ATL

Minors Pitchers
Tillman, Chris SP BAL (this is a bonus keeper)
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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby jweb2244 » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:19 pm

It's close, but I wouldn't do it. I had Ubaldo as a rookie, but for some reson I am not as high on him as I was. And while I like Kinsler a lot, I'm wondering if the injury-prone label is accurate. IMO the difference between Verlander and Ubaldo is greater than that between Phillips and Kinsler, so I wouldn't do it.

As a side note, I drafted Howard one spot before Braun in one of my leagues and have been kicking myself ever since. I don't think the other owner will do it...if he does, great; if he doesn't, if I were you, see if you can thrown in something else to change his mind.

Thanks for help on mine.
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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby sweettortilla » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:52 pm

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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby taw856 » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:55 pm

No way can you do this. Kinsler's on the DL and there's never any guarantees a guy comes back healthy without nagging effects. Phillips puts up more than respectable numbers at 2b himself and the downgrade from Verlander is pretty significant. You've gotta stand pat here.

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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby DVauthrin » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:56 pm

i'd rather have phillips and verlander. verlander is better than jimenez, while phillips and kinsler are close.
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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby Gomez427 » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:00 pm

Yeah, don't do this. Verlander is an equal to Kinsler as far as keeper worthiness (simply because Kinsler has not proven he can remain healthy). Phillips is no slouch at second base either adn ranks right up there with a health Kinsler.
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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby sigriffey » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:56 pm

Too risky to grab KInsler now and Verlander trumps Ubaldo in my book still.
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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby Padres Fan » Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:16 pm

I wouldn't do it , Kinsler seems to get nagging injuries, I like Ubaldo, but the fact he plays for Colorado is a minor red flag and Verlander is just nasty, plus Phillips not that much older than Kinsler (1 year) and has been hitting better this season.

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Re: Verlander for Kinsler? I'm SO Conflicted! WHIR for sure!

Postby briane » Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:18 pm

Verlander is still a good pitcher, and, as stated above Phillips and Kinsler are pretty close. Pass.

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