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Greatest Group of Keepers Ever?

Postby quimmy » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:32 pm

In my keeper league we are able to keep up to 5 players as long as their $$ value does not go over a cap of $75. Also, we have contracts you can assign to your keepers:

2 - 2year contracts
2 - 3year contracts
1 - 5year contract

Also, we started the league this year, so the players drafted keep their rd value for the length of the contract as well as their $$ value. With that in mind I submit to you a list of what can potentially be the greatest keepers ever:

Ian Kinsler - $27 and a 2nd rd pick - 2yr
Matt Kemp - $19 and a 6th rd pick - 3yr
Joey Votto - $10 and a 10th rd pick - 3yr
Josh Johnson - $9 and a 17th rd pick - 2yr
Justin Upton - $5 and a 20th rd pick - 5yr

Is this not the greatest keeper group ever?
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Re: Greatest Group of Keepers Ever?

Postby KSig24 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:07 pm

It is a pretty solid group of keepers. I would like more information on how your league is set up. I think we are getting bored with our current settings.

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Re: Greatest Group of Keepers Ever?

Postby bazzy_51 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:58 pm

quimmy wrote:In my keeper league we are able to keep up to 5 players as long as their $$ value does not go over a cap of $75. Also, we have contracts you can assign to your keepers:

2 - 2year contracts
2 - 3year contracts
1 - 5year contract

Also, we started the league this year, so the players drafted keep their rd value for the length of the contract as well as their $$ value. With that in mind I submit to you a list of what can potentially be the greatest keepers ever:

Ian Kinsler - $27 and a 2nd rd pick - 2yr
Matt Kemp - $19 and a 6th rd pick - 3yr
Joey Votto - $10 and a 10th rd pick - 3yr
Josh Johnson - $9 and a 17th rd pick - 2yr
Justin Upton - $5 and a 20th rd pick - 5yr

Is this not the greatest keeper group ever?


so what exactly are you needing? a pat on the back?

Kinsler is now showing to be somewhat injury prone, will give you a great 1st half but you know the injury bug will bite him at some point in the 2nd half I.E. career ABs: 1st half 1157, 2nd half 663... Ave 1st half .287, 2nd half .267...Ks 1st half 172, 2nd half 103 (and again damn near only half the ABs as the 1st half)... notice a trend starting?

Kemp IMO is WAY overrated by most i mean at this point and time Werth, Holliday, Nelson Cruz, Torii Hunter before DL and Curtis Granderson are all doing what Kemps doing with the Power/Speed combo for a lot less cost (i can make up the 10-20 point difference in average up with a later round bat)... now not saying Kemp isn't a great player and even better keeper, but just acknowledging other players are doing it too...

Votto i have mixed emotions, point blank plays in a sh!tty lineup that doesn't give much back to him in terms of production

Johnson and Johnson again great player, but injury prone, has never made it through a full season yet and is basically has a bionic arm for crist sake...

Upton i think is the best keeper of them all simply because of the value upgrade with the draft position...

good keeper set, could potentially be great, but not the best ever by any means...
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Re: Greatest Group of Keepers Ever?

Postby quimmy » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:37 pm

thanks for the insight.

i agree on kinsler, wish i could move him but everyone in my league knows the drill on him as you just stated.

kemp over-rated. hmmm, not in a keeper league. yeah, maybe werth, cruz, hunter, and grandy can give u similar, not the same, but similar production, but they do not have anywhere near his upside imo and getting a top 20 player in 2010 for a 6th rd pick is gold in my opinion.

votto does play in a crappy lineup, but in spite of that he is putting up solid numbers and looks like he will only get better.

josh johnson is a beast and i think he has shown he has fully recovered from TJ surgery. looking like a top 10 SP going forward.

jup is by far my crown jewel. he should be a top 20 player next year, and top 10 from then after.

so i guess to answer your question, yes, i was looking for a pat on the back! :). god knows my league mates wont do it.....lol
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Re: Greatest Group of Keepers Ever?

Postby Captain Furtah » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:12 pm

After winning my competitive keeper league 5 years in a row, my team took a turn for the worst this year. I tried to hang on as long as possible as I will always try to win, not play for next year. Anyway, since I realized I was out I've traded for Adam Jones ($4), Justin Upton ($4), Shin Soo Choo ($5), A Gonzo ($18), N Feliz ($1) and Nolasco ($10). I also have G Beckham ($5), Scherzer ($8) and McCutchen ($5). Our prices are based on last years prices and we have 3 year contracts going forward. Also, we get to keep up to $90 in keepers (no limit on the number) so I will probably throw in M Cabrera ($34) and/or B Phillips ($20) to round out my keeper group.

If I had to pick 5 I'd take my Ad Jones, Upton, Choo, Beckham and N Feliz for ($19) up against your top 5 for ($70) any day...
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Re: Greatest Group of Keepers Ever?

Postby quimmy » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:18 pm

hey man, where do u live, them be fighting words.....lol

i do like dig dug ALOT, trying to trade for him now. i do not like feliz that much, need to see more than 2inn of relieve pitching against oak to convince me he is worth keeping over some of those other guys u mentioned, though i do realize he projects to be quite good. also, we dont do an auction draft, so the $ value is only to set a limit on the keepers. i too have max, kershaw, mccutchen, and lind. sorry boss, but i have to respectfully disagree.
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