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Jason Bay/Edwin Jackson for Cliff Lee/Joakim Soria

Postby Chicago 2 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:59 pm

Just offered this trade, debating accepting it or not. Kinda torn, could go either way.

Giving Up:

Cliff Lee
Joakim Soria

Getting:

Jason Bay
Edwin Jackson

Team

Ryan Doumit
Joey Votto
Aaron Hill
Gordon Beckham
Alexei Ramirez
Carl Crawford
Curtis Granderson
Juan Rivera
Derrek Lee

Mike Lowell
Erik Aybar
Alexei Ramirez
DL Jose Reyes

Zack Greinke
Cliff Lee
Chad Qualls
Joakim Soria
Jim Johnson
Jason Frasor
Leo Nunez
Yovani Gallardo
Javier Vazquez
Randy Wolf
DL Erik Bedard


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Re: Jason Bay/Edwin Jackson for Cliff Lee/Joakim Soria

Postby Chicago 2 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:00 pm

Should I maybe counter and give up Greinke instead of Lee.
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Re: Jason Bay/Edwin Jackson for Cliff Lee/Joakim Soria

Postby bazzy_51 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:13 pm

im kind of biased when it comes to Bay... im not a huge fan of his i think quite frankly way too many people overrate what he does... now with that being said i don't think hes a bad option for fantasy i just don't think hes worth the price tag most people put on him... IMHO your OF right now consists of Crawford, Granderson, Rivera and Alexei rotation between SS and OF, thats a pretty stout outfield you win SB every week im guessing between Crawford/Granderson and with Alexei is in the mix, but you also get Granderson's 22 HR and Rivera's 18 HR so you have Power potential there also, its a great combination... then you look at Bay and his numbers are VERY VERY scewed, almost like Carlos Pena's, he came out of the gate firing on all 8 cylinders and was knocking every ball that touched his bat out of the park, then you look at last month and yes i understand players have slumps, but we're talking about ONE homer in the last month not to mention a .211 average and single digit RBI totals (a bitter Four to be exact) so when you look at his year-to-date 20HR/72RBI over half if not more of that was contributed to in the first two months of the season (15 HR and 49 RBI combined in April/May) not to mention his average has steadily declined month to month from .324 to .264 to .230 all the way to .192 last month, now do i think Bay is a .200 bat hell no but to think that hes a steady .300 bat i think is absurd, i think you should be happy with a .280ish...

all and all i think you are giving up way too much value in Cliff Lee and Soria for Bay and and i don't want to say an out of nowhere EJax, but he pretty much is with this sub 3 ERA... i think somewhere in the neighborhood of high 3 low 4 ERA is more realistic for EJax...

all that being said i might think about Greinke/Soria for Bay/EJax but with that i would try to upgrade EJax if at all possible if not i think the value difference between Lee and Greinke is signifigant enough to do just Bay and EJax...

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Re: Jason Bay/Edwin Jackson for Cliff Lee/Joakim Soria

Postby Chicago 2 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:24 pm

Very helpful bud.

I don't trust Edwin as well. My pitching has been dominant whole year, I'm easily winning tiebreaker with a 3.09 era. Bays bat would help but his avg is iffy and both players I'm getting seem to be falling off.
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