EDIT: Hamels/Franklin for Carpenter. WHIR!!

[thejusman1]

My Roster:

C - Pablo Sandoval
1B - Prince Fielder
2B - Ben Zobrist
3B - David Wright
SS - Gordon Beckham
OF - Josh Hamilton
OF - Andre Ethier
OF - Jayson Werth
Util - B.J. Upton

SP - Billingsley, Lackey, Harden, Hamels, Edwin Jackson, Buehrle, Kazmir, Jorge De La Rosa
RP - Fuentes, Bell, Street, Franklin

My thought process is that Hamels has been wildly inconsistent all year, and I don't know if I trust him for the playoffs. Harden and Lackey have found a groove, and Billingsley's start last night was encouraging. I feel like if I can replace Carpenter for Hamels, I have a strong 4-man core, buttressed by my other SPs. I could use Morales for a bench bat over the very disappointing Josh Hamilton or B.J. Upton.

Thoughts? WHIR!

EDIT: OK, so he removed the offer, maybe cause he realized how good it was for me, and replaced it with just Carpenter for Hamels/Franklin. Is this still worth it? I could add Willingham as a bench bat, and I Frasor and C.J. Wilson are FAs if I want to replace Franklin.

[Swagger]

I like this trade for you. I think two general rules apply here 1) the team that gets the best player wins the trade, and I think you are getting the best player in Carp 2) Don't trade for RP's (athough franklin is a very good RP)

I am not a fan of Hamels and I personally would pull the trigger on this.


help with mine

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[jweb2244]

I agree with your thought process, but I would still consider Carpenter a health risk and don't know if Morales will keep it up. Have you shopped Hamels to other teams? He has a lot of name value and could get you more in return. If not, then I would agree to do it.

Thanks for help on mine.

[Trebor]

yes do it.

hamels 270+ total IP last year wrecked his arm...id much rather have Carp. and Morales just keeps hitting...do the deal!!!!!!!!!!


thx for help on mine

[theinflatinator91]

Thanks for the help on mine.

Yes I would defiantly do this trade.

Good Luck.

[lyons595]

Thanks for your help.
Hamels has been, well, pretty bad this year. It seems like you can get one good start follwed by 2 OK starts and then one or 2 bad ones. He's not worth it, and if you can get Carpenter to replace him, it clearly makes you a better team.

[Emerald8h]

I like Carp big time over Hamels this year. Do it. You're SP depth is still good even without Hamels anyway.

[streaknasty09]

I think what it comes down to is that you can afford to give up a relief pitcher to improve you offensive numbers, and I have had no regrets picking up Morales this season. The Angels are batting .290 as a team and their potent offense seems poised to keep up these numbers the remainder of the season. Giving up Hamels in name is a tough thing to do, but there is nothing negative about picking up Chris Carpenter this year in that effective Cardinal's rotation. Go for it.

[thejusman1]

Okay, so he is removing Morales from the offer. Is the pitching upgrade to Carpenter alone still worth Hamels/Franklin? I can pick up Frasor or C.J. Wilson for saves in the interim, or pick up Josh Willingham as a bench bat. Should I still pull the trigger?

[kidsilk]

I would still do it. Morales did defnitely sweeten it but I still think you get the best player in the deal and Carp has looked great this year as Hamels has just sucked.

please help

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