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Postby AussieDodger » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:26 pm

Maris09 wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:How many 120-ish pitch starts did he have in 2008? Anyone got the stats? :-?

I still don't think he's been quite the same since he was brought into that crazy 18 inning game last year against SD (I think it was SD?)
If I remember right Volquez had thrown 100+ pitches 2 days earlier, and then Dusty brings him into that extra inning game.
Harang hasn't been quite the same since then either.


He had an excellent game in the previous one too.... 6 innings, 12 Ks.
So with the 92 he threw in the start previously this relief appearance made it 131 pitches in 3 days :-t :-t

So maybe the equation is: 131/3 + 110< x 5 = surgery. !+)
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby ayebatter » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:29 pm

AussieDodger wrote:
ayebatter wrote:I'm gonna assume you think Dusty has over-worked another arm, I'm not sure how you can pin this on Dusty :

Volquez / starts & inning progression

2004 - 29 starts / 125 inn
2005 - 22 starts / 135 inn
2006 - 29 starts / 150 inn
2007 - 36 starts / 180 inn
2008 - 32 starts / 195 inn

granted he's had more starts & innings in the minors, but his progression looks fine to me, I for one can't blame this one on Dusty.


How many 120-ish pitch starts did he have in 2008? Anyone got the stats? :-?


He threw 120 pitches once in '08, and 115+ 4 times (3 of those were in Sept). I still don't see any glaring indications that Dusty overworked this guy.
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby thejusman1 » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:06 pm

Dusty Baker is garbage. It saddens me that he has a job and I don't.
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby BigLebowski » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:45 pm

thejusman1 wrote:Dusty Baker is garbage. It saddens me that he has a job and I don't.



It saddens me you are spending time in the cafe instead of looking for a job. The lazy are the bain of society.
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:18 pm

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thejusman1 wrote:Dusty Baker is garbage. It saddens me that he has a job and I don't.



It saddens me you are spending time in the cafe instead of looking for a job. The lazy are the bain of society.

I disagree. I think those with poor spelling skills are the bane of society. :-°
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby urbanbreez » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:37 pm

BigLebowski wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:Dusty Baker is garbage. It saddens me that he has a job and I don't.



It saddens me you are spending time in the cafe instead of looking for a job. The lazy are the bain of society.

You've just become my least favorite person of the day. Grats!
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby Inukchuk » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:48 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
BigLebowski wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:Dusty Baker is garbage. It saddens me that he has a job and I don't.



It saddens me you are spending time in the cafe instead of looking for a job. The lazy are the bain of society.

I disagree. I think those with poor spelling skills are the bane of society. :-°


I disagree. I think those that nitpick others' spelling are the bane of society.
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:52 pm

Inukchuk wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:
BigLebowski wrote:

It saddens me you are spending time in the cafe instead of looking for a job. The lazy are the bain of society.

I disagree. I think those with poor spelling skills are the bane of society. :-°


I disagree. I think those that nitpick others' spelling are the bane of society.

Actually, I think this guy is the bane of society:

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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby Yoda » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:25 pm

ayebatter wrote:He threw 120 pitches once in '08, and 115+ 4 times (3 of those were in Sept). I still don't see any glaring indications that Dusty overworked this guy.


I think the only way to judge abuse is to see how many pitches the pitcher throws under stress and/or when he is tired. Injuries tend to occur when a pitcher is tired and it wouldn't surprise me if Dusty leaves his starters in longer than he should.

It's hard to blame Dusty 100% for some of these injuries but you simply cannot ignore that they happen under his watch. Cueto seems like another young pitcher who is falling apart after a good start and he is also not past his injury nexus.
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Re: Dusty claims another

Postby thejusman1 » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:19 pm

BigLebowski wrote:
thejusman1 wrote:Dusty Baker is garbage. It saddens me that he has a job and I don't.



It saddens me you are spending time in the cafe instead of looking for a job. The lazy are the bain of society.


Then Dusty Baker has indirectly made you sad as well.
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