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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:38 pm

SpecialFNK wrote:how will Rolen do in 2010..
will he be like he is this season?
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will he be like he was in 2008 and 2007?

if he is more like the player from 2010, the Reds are going to wish they hadnt made the trade.. unless theyve really become fed up with Encarnacion.


I'm not worried, they have Frazier, Francisco, or Soto capable of playing 3B soon.
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:42 pm

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mweir145 wrote:But why did the Reds make this move?

At least you can rationalize cutting payroll from the Jays perspective.


Well, heard on local radio that Reds might be getting cash from the Blue Jays as well.

Even so...why?
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby thejusman1 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:27 pm

4:25pm: MLB.com's Jordan Bastian reports that Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi says Rolen asked to be traded for "personal reasons."


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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:28 pm

More news....if we believe him, JP says Rolen asked to be traded for "personal reasons." I always knew he hated the turf, he said as much himself.

It's actually quite a good trade for the Jays if Rolen didn't want to be here anymore. Both Roenicke and Stewart's peripherals are great. Hurts that entire contending idea, but as a move in itself, it's fine.
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:31 pm

The Jays will pay some of the $4MM Rolen makes in 2009, according to Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail.
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby RocketsDWM » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:54 pm

I wouldnt give JP's comments any credence
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby SpecialFNK » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:10 pm

4:50pm: Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star reports that the Jays will pay all of Rolen's 2009 salary, nearly $4MM.


with the talk of Rolen, can we talk about Encarnacion?
whats his future going to be like? how could he do in Toronto?
could he finally produce as expected when he first came up to the Reds?
2004 and 2005 he was ranked #2 prospect for Cincinnati
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... cion.shtml
career minor league (648 G/ 2460 AB)- .291 AVG/ .353 OBP/ .451 SLG/ .804 OPS
he is still only 26 years old.
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:13 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:I wouldnt give JP's comments any credence

Neither would I...usually. But couldn't they just ask Rolen to confirm it?
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:14 pm

SpecialFNK wrote:
4:50pm: Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star reports that the Jays will pay all of Rolen's 2009 salary, nearly $4MM.


with the talk of Rolen, can we talk about Encarnacion?
whats his future going to be like? how could he do in Toronto?
could he finally produce as expected when he first came up to the Reds?
2004 and 2005 he was ranked #2 prospect for Cincinnati
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... cion.shtml
career minor league (648 G/ 2460 AB)- .291 AVG/ .353 OBP/ .451 SLG/ .804 OPS
he is still only 26 years old.

Encarnacion is a decent enough hitter (.800 OPS), but he can't field his position at 3rd at all. I would move him if I was the Jays. Either to OF, 1B, or DH.
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Re: Rolen to Reds! NOOOOO

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:25 pm

Keith Law loves the deal for the Jays (likes the prospects, and thinks Encarnacion still has potential offensively), and questions why the Reds have made it.
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