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Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:45 pm

Zito is God wrote:I've seen Masterson pitch a good deal and his 89 mph fastball looks like a 99 mph fastball because of his delivery. He is 23/24 right now, and I always saw him as a good #2 or #3 starter in the majors. Don't know much about the other guy, but I think the Red SOx got VMart really cheap if those are the only 2 players and the other pitcher isn't anything special. I expected more of a Bowden + Kalish + C-level prospect type of deal.


What is the final deal? Anybody know?
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:45 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:
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AquaMan2342 wrote:Didn't realize Martinez was only hitting .287 this season.......usually he's better than that. I still like the move for Boston though, he's a solid pure hitter.

His career OPS is .832, and his 2009 OPS is .832. He's hitting as expected, but that really isn't a significant upgrade on anything Boston has.


Yes it is. Have you seen the offense lately? He will be a welcomed addition. I hate to lose Masterson though. Loved his versatility.

I don't need to have seen the offense lately to know the Red Sox would have been fine without Victor Martinez. They have plenty of good hitters.

I mean...it's a slight upgrade, but it's not entirely necessary.
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby RocketsDWM » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:46 pm

Scouting Report: Big lefty whose fastball sits around 92-94 mph and tops out at 98 mph with very good life. Aggressive, throws strikes and gets ahead in the count. Also mixes in a biting 82-83 mph plus slider, and an improving 80-81 mph changeup. Very good control. Team leader and a hard worker. A closer in college, Hagadone could make it as a starter if his changeup keeps improving. Not a lot of miles on his arm. Needs to work on keeping his delivery consistent. At this stage, despite having fluid arm action, his delivery is a bit compact. The team is still undecided as to whether Hagadone will be a starter or a reliever long-term. Hagadone had TJ Surgery in early June 2008, and returned to the mound in Greenville almost exactly one year later


Nick Hagadone scouting report on SoxProspects.com
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:46 pm

I'm hearing LaRoche to the Mets now.
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby RocketsDWM » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:47 pm

Scutaro and a bullpen arm would make this deadline very successful for the Sox.
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby RocketsDWM » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:47 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:I'm hearing LaRoche to the Mets now.


Source?
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby AussieDodger » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:48 pm

Hagadone hasn't had a start over 3 innings long in '09 yet :-?
Hopefully he makes a decent recovery, trading V-Mart for a closer would be teh sux. ;-7
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:49 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:I'm hearing LaRoche to the Mets now.


Source?


I've heard it numerous times now on other message boards but I'm looking for a concrete source. It could be nothing. Not sure yet.
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:51 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:Scutaro and a bullpen arm would make this deadline very successful for the Sox.

Jays won't trade Scutaro if Halladay isn't on the move.
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Re: V-Mart to Red Sox (Merged)

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:51 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:I'm hearing LaRoche to the Mets now.


Source?


I've heard it numerous times now on other message boards but I'm looking for a concrete source. It could be nothing. Not sure yet.

It would make sense though....
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