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Postby mweir145 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:12 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:Nice deal for Cleveland IMO.

The Phillies didn't have to trade any of their top 3 prospects or Happ (as overrated as he is). It's a great deal for them, despite my crack at Cliff Lee earlier.
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby Another Blown Save » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:32 pm

I wonder if the Phillies will trade for both Lee and Halladay. It seems still possible at this point
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby Snakes Gould » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:36 pm

marson, donald, and carraco's stock have all fallen to the point where i wasnt sure anyone would really be interested in them for a frontline type starter, yet amaro got a team to take 3 of them. knapp was promising but he's not drabek or happ AND we received a right handed hitting bat for our bench. im pretty happy about it. i dont really think we need halladay at this point but it would be pretty crazy if they acquired him as well. :*)

good deal phils.
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby Maris09 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:37 pm

B-Chad wrote:If the Indians deal Ben Francisco, is it a safe assumption that Matt LaPorta will be recalled?

For sure. Between LF, 1B, and DH he should be seeing regular time the rest of the way out right?
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby SpecialFNK » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:07 pm

im looking forward to watching Cliff Lee pitch for the Phillies.. because im expecting his numbers to go up.
the last the time Indians traded a pitcher to the NL (Sabathia) he dominated the rest of the season, this is going to be the opposite.

down the road this one where people in Phily will look back and on say i cant believe we settled for this guy when we could have had Halladay.
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby jlm53089 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:09 pm

Rays can still make their play at Victor.

I am just glad he didnt go to Boston or New York. ;-D
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby Thursday » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:29 pm

Nice deal for the Phils. I'm happy we didn't give up Drabek or Happ.
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby m16a » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:42 pm

Thursday wrote:Nice deal for the Phils. I'm happy we didn't give up Drabek or Happ.



Agreed. We get a good upgrade now, without having to give away a lot of our stock in the pitching regard for the future. ;-D
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby Rubidium » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:11 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:I wonder if the Phillies will trade for both Lee and Halladay. It seems still possible at this point


That was mentioned in the Inquirer this morning, actually. I can't imagine it would happen, nor am I really sure I'd want it to at this point. Hamels/Lee/Blanton plus two of Happ/Moyer/Pedro is a rotation I'm pretty content with.

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Thursday wrote:Nice deal for the Phils. I'm happy we didn't give up Drabek or Happ.


Agreed. We get a good upgrade now, without having to give away a lot of our stock in the pitching regard for the future. ;-D


Me too. He's not as good as Halladay, but he was cheaper in money and prospects, so I'm really stoked. My worry at this point is that the Phils rotation now has four LHP if Pedro doesn't come back fully healthy, but regardless, he's a huge upgrade over Rodrigo Lopez, and I'm glad Amaro pulled the trigger.

Also, Ben Francisco is, not surprisingly, getting overlooked, but it'll be nice to have a right-handed bench bat with an average over the Mendoza line. :-)
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Re: cliff lee to the phillies?

Postby Thursday » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:17 pm

Rubidium wrote: Hamels/Lee/Blanton plus two of Happ/Moyer/Pedro is a rotation I'm pretty content with.


This is true, however, I'm wondering what the heck the Phils are going to do with the rotation now that Lee joins. My guess is:

1. Hamels
2. Lee
3. Blanton
4. Happ
5. Moyer

Which is fine, really. But where does Pedro fit if/when he comes back healthy? Are the Phils still looking to ship out Happ at any juncture? Pedro throws right, which might mean he fits into the rotation better.
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