I would be getting Holliday(and Bronson Arroyo, who I would drop) for Frankie Gutierrez and Tommy Hanson. Should I do it? I am currently in first place by 15pts. League stats include OBP, K's, WHIP, K/9, K/BB. My roster is as follows: C Víctor Martínez 1B Albert Pujols 2B Chase Utley 3B Gordon Beckham SS Asdrubal Cabrera IF Brandon Phillips OF Bobby Abreu OF Jacoby Ellsbury OF Hideki Matsui OF Nick Markakis OF Jake Fox - Util Travis Hafner BN Franklin Gutiérrez BN Marcus Thames BN Jorge Cantú BN Matt Wieters
SP Tommy Hanson SP Yovani Gallardo RP Leo Núñez RP Jonathan Broxton P Joakim Soria P Scott Downs P Phil Hughes BN Dan Haren BN Erik Bedard BN Ricky Nolasco BN Clay Buchholz BN Mat Latos BN Aaron Cook DL Brandon Webb DL John Maine DL Kevin Slowey
its a no for me in a nonkeeper and an absolute no in a keeper... the reason being is first lets see how he does in St Louis, and more importantly, your not exactly hurting for an OFer, where as if you trade Hanson look at your staff then... you go from Hanson/YoGo/Haren to just YoGo and Haren, Bedard is still a huge injury risk, still don't know in my mind if Nolasco's last outing is what can be expected out of him from here forward, and Buchholz still isn't garenteed a spot, not to mention Latos is going to be on a strick pitch count so don't expect too too much from him... again i think if its a keeper the upside of Hanson far exceeds that of Holliday, as its still to be seen if he will be a Card after seasons end, and your not really hurting for an OFer...
take holliday. he's worth far more than two hot youngsters. plus when jake fox is your 5th OF(or gutierrez) where you start 5, you need an outfielder. plus matsui is a question mark as well.
edited for accuracy(sorry about calling fox your 3rd OF earlier, I answer a lot of questions and sometimes take quicker glances at rosters than I should)
Last edited by DVauthrin on Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
Hmmm....both answers are excellent. Indeed, I have thought along those very same lines for each arguement! I go back and forth. Since I'm in first place, there's no need to rush. Nevertheless, I am always up for upgrading my team.
BTW, it is a Non-keeper league, so I'm really judging production from now until the end of THIS season. Holliday hitting behind Pujols, or keep Hanson and Gutierrez. Hanson had 11K's last start, and Gutierrez has been putting up topranking numbers over this past month.
DVauthrin wrote:take holliday. he's worth far more than two hot youngsters. plus when jake fox is your 3rd OF(or gutierrez), you need an outfielder.
Fox is his 5th OFer. Don't do it. Especially in a keeper. Hanson is THE next big pitcher. He isn't just "hot."
you are right, fox is his 5th outfielder, my mistake. Hanson may be the next big pitcher but holliday is back to 2nd or 3rd round value after getting out of oakland. I like hanson, but there are so many things that can derail a young pitcher than a very good hitter doesn't have in his way. Plus, holliday helps your team every day while hanson helps once every 5 days.
I'm leaning towards trading Hanson and Gutierrez away and getting Holliday. In my league, I have to play five outfielders. I don't know if that makes a difference to you guys. I do need help in the outfield, but my pitching depth is weak. Anyone else?
since it's not a keeper, i'd get holliday. i really think he'll light it up in st. louis. your pitching staff will take a hit losing hanson, but it sounds like you want hitting more. i'd take a chance on it. (fyi, if it was a keeper, i'd obviously say no.)
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