Matt Holliday Trade thread

[drunkmonkey]

I REALLY hope we can sign him to a few years, but I don't know that Boras will let that happen. I dunno...seems we could have got more out of Wallace than a 2-month rental.

[acsguitar]

Wait he's gonna bat Behind albert?

[drunkmonkey]

I just hope you didn't sell low on Holliday. Coming back to the NL, with protection around him - his numbers will make a significant rebound. FWIW (small sample size), does anyone know in which park he's put up his best stats away from Coors?

[BronXBombers51]

Helps me in fantasy as I'm a Holliday owner, and helps the Yankees this weekend by removing Oakland's best player. Win-win for me.

[acsguitar]

I just hope you didn't sell low on Holliday. Coming back to the NL, with protection around him - his numbers will make a significant rebound. FWIW (small sample size), does anyone know in which park he's put up his best stats away from Coors?

I'll check. Probably SF though

[JTWood]

I just hope you didn't sell low on Holliday. Coming back to the NL, with protection around him - his numbers will make a significant rebound. FWIW (small sample size), does anyone know in which park he's put up his best stats away from Coors?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/s ... e=batting3

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By Stadium    AB    R    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    BB    HBP    SO    SB    CS    AVG    OBP    SLG    OPS
Angel Stadium   12   5   4   4   0   0   0   1   0   1   0   1   .333   .385   .667   1.052
AT&T Park   99   12   28   7   1   1   18   10   3   18   4   4   .283   .366   .404   .770
Busch Stadium   39   8   15   2   1   5   7   6   1   8   0   0   .385   .478   .872   1.350
Busch Stadium II   39   8   15   2   1   5   7   6   1   8   0   0   .385   .478   .872   1.350
Camden Yards   12   2   2   0   0   0   0   2   0   1   0   1   .167   .286   .167   .453
Chase Field   96   11   29   7   0   2   11   7   1   15   2   0   .302   .352   .438   .790
Citizens Bank Park   33   8   10   1   0   4   8   4   1   6   1   0   .303   .395   .697   1.092
Comerica Park   11   1   5   1   0   0   1   1   1   2   0   0   .455   .538   .545   1.083
Coors Field   908   199   328   75   9   62   219   90   22   156   19   4   .361   .430   .669   1.099
Dodger Stadium   98   19   29   5   1   3   10   9   3   21   3   0   .296   .366   .459   .825
Dolphin Stadium   39   11   17   6   1   3   7   4   0   9   1   1   .436   .488   .872   1.360
Fenway Park   13   5   5   2   0   1   2   1   0   1   0   0   .385   .429   .769   1.198
Great American   41   7   11   0   0   1   3   2   0   11   1   0   .268   .302   .341   .643
Kauffman Stadium   10   3   4   1   0   2   3   2   0   2   0   0   .400   .500   1.100   1.600
Miller Park   32   6   10   0   0   3   4   5   0   8   2   0   .313   .405   .594   .999
Minute Maid Park   37   3   11   3   0   0   3   2   0   4   0   0   .297   .333   .378   .711
PETCO Park   96   13   24   6   0   3   11   10   0   17   8   0   .250   .321   .406   .727
PNC Park   35   7   9   1   0   2   8   5   0   10   0   0   .257   .333   .457   .790
RFK Stadium   33   5   11   3   0   0   7   4   1   8   3   0   .333   .421   .424   .845
Rogers Centre   14   0   2   1   0   0   1   0   0   5   0   0   .143   .143   .214   .357
Safeco Field   12   1   2   1   0   0   1   2   0   2   0   0   .167   .286   .250   .536
Shea Stadium   34   4   11   1   0   0   4   3   0   11   1   0   .324   .378   .353   .731
Turner Field   29   6   11   4   0   2   6   3   0   8   2   0   .379   .438   .724   1.162
U.S. Cellular Field   10   0   3   1   0   0   1   2   0   3   0   0   .300   .417   .400   .817
Wrigley Field   23   6   3   0   0   1   3   6   0   10   0   0   .130   .310   .261   .571

[Big Pimpin]

at the same time, if DeRosa and Holliday don't resign, we'll be getting extra picks to replenish the farm system to keep in line with the organizational philosophy change.

Assuming they offer both arbitration, of course. Holliday will definitely be Type A, so presumably they get a first rounder (unless a bottom 15 team signs him of course) and a sandwich pick, but at the moment DeRosa looks to be Type B, so that would be just a sandwich pick. Still three picks in the top 50 or so any way you look at it.

Still a lot to give up for a couple hundred ABs.

[acsguitar]

How do i format this. Anyways here are his NAT league parks above 300. Great ST Louis #'s

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G    AB    R    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    BB    K    SB    CS    AVG    OBP    SLG    OPS    
Turner Field         13    55    10    19    6    0    2    9    4    13    2    0    .345    .390    .564    .953    
Coors Field         359    1353    285    483    106    16    84    307    129    230    28    9    .357    .423    .645    1.068    
Land Shark Stadium         14    52    12    18    6    1    3    7    6    15    1    1    .346    .424    .673    1.097    
Miller Park         14    46    7    14    2    0    3    4    5    12    2    0    .304    .385    .543    .928    
PNC Park         19    75    13    23    1    0    4    12    7    15    1    0    .307    .372    .480    .852    
Busch Stadium         11    39    8    15    2    1    5    7    6    8    0    0    .385    .478    .872    1.350    
RFK Stadium         10    41    5    13    5    0    0    8    4    10    3    0    .317    .391    .439    .830

[drunkmonkey]

I just hope you didn't sell low on Holliday. Coming back to the NL, with protection around him - his numbers will make a significant rebound. FWIW (small sample size), does anyone know in which park he's put up his best stats away from Coors?

I'll check. Probably SF though

Ignoring his 10 ABs in KC, it's STL.

[Fade2White12]

Very true, but his career away from Coors Field OPS is just a bit over .800. If that is what the Cardinals are getting in this deal, then this deal does not help the Cards out nowhere near as much as some might think. If the move to the NL and Pujols in the lineup makes Holliday a 900ish+ OPS guy the rest of the year, this could be a move that pays off for St. Louis this year. But still 6 years of Wallace even with probable bad defense is alot to pay.

Don't forget that Holliday also has a .877 career OPS at the Oakland Coliseum. He simply hits better at home than away - regardless of where what team he plays for. Also, at the new Busch, he has a career OPS of 1.350, and a career average of .297 at NL Central ballparks.

This trade is the ultimate risk/reward for the Cardinals. Personally, I think this makes them the clear favorite in the division, and probably top three in the NL.

Win for Oakland
Win/Loss for St. Louis
Win for Holliday owners