Willy T 4 MVP wrote:this isnt even a question. bourn is far more valuable. he's on pace for 110 runs, 60 steals and a .285 average. i see no reason why he shouldnt keep that up. speed doesn't go into a slump and it's not that hard for a very fast runner to have a babip close to .340. he can easily hit .275 the rest of the way with similar run and steal production.
compare bourn's stats to ellsbury's (or vintage juan pierre). bourn all the way.
These two are very even players and if Pods is able to be successful as a center fielder they should put up pretty even stats from here on out. I would choose Pods for the simple fact that he's been around longer and I feel he has better protection with the return of Carlos Quentin. Not to mention that I believe the odds of the White Sox staying in the playoff race is higher than the Astros.
Willy T 4 MVP wrote:this isnt even a question. bourn is far more valuable. he's on pace for 110 runs, 60 steals and a .285 average. i see no reason why he shouldnt keep that up. speed doesn't go into a slump and it's not that hard for a very fast runner to have a babip close to .340. he can easily hit .275 the rest of the way with similar run and steal production.
compare bourn's stats to ellsbury's (or vintage juan pierre). bourn all the way.
These two are very even players and if Pods is able to be successful as a center fielder they should put up pretty even stats from here on out. I would choose Pods for the simple fact that he's been around longer and I feel he has better protection with the return of Carlos Quentin. Not to mention that I believe the odds of the White Sox staying in the playoff race is higher than the Astros.
Sorry, but I don't see the steals potential of a 33 year old Pods being as high as a 26 year old Bourn. young legs > older legs. I agree that average and runs should be very close between the two, however.
Willy T 4 MVP wrote:this isnt even a question. bourn is far more valuable. he's on pace for 110 runs, 60 steals and a .285 average. i see no reason why he shouldnt keep that up. speed doesn't go into a slump and it's not that hard for a very fast runner to have a babip close to .340. he can easily hit .275 the rest of the way with similar run and steal production.
compare bourn's stats to ellsbury's (or vintage juan pierre). bourn all the way.
These two are very even players and if Pods is able to be successful as a center fielder they should put up pretty even stats from here on out. I would choose Pods for the simple fact that he's been around longer and I feel he has better protection with the return of Carlos Quentin. Not to mention that I believe the odds of the White Sox staying in the playoff race is higher than the Astros.
Sorry, but I don't see the steals potential of a 33 year old Pods being as high as a 26 year old Bourn. young legs > older legs. I agree that average and runs should be very close between the two, however.
Granted we are justifying the comparison as of now, to the end of the season. The difference in steals shouldn't be too big that Pods can't over come it with a better BA, more rbi and possibly more runs. Considering Pods does have better lineup protection.
White sox without Carlos Quentin for the majority of the season as a team have hit 110 hr's with 414 runs driven in. Astros on the other hand have a lackluster 76 hr's and 367 runs driven in
These two are very even players and if Pods is able to be successful as a center fielder they should put up pretty even stats from here on out. I would choose Pods for the simple fact that he's been around longer and I feel he has better protection with the return of Carlos Quentin. Not to mention that I believe the odds of the White Sox staying in the playoff race is higher than the Astros.
Sorry, but I don't see the steals potential of a 33 year old Pods being as high as a 26 year old Bourn. young legs > older legs. I agree that average and runs should be very close between the two, however.
Granted we are justifying the comparison as of now, to the end of the season. The difference in steals shouldn't be too big that Pods can't over come it with a better BA, more rbi and possibly more runs. Considering Pods does have better lineup protection.
White sox without Carlos Quentin for the majority of the season as a team have hit 110 hr's with 414 runs driven in. Astros on the other hand have a lackluster 76 hr's and 367 runs driven in
First of all, conceding BA to Pods is a major stretch. he's a career .274 hitter that has hit better than .290 twice in his career. Furthermore, Pods is not going to significantly outperform bourn in RBI. He has 24 in 67 games this season, or one every 3 games. that's 23 rbi's the rest of the way. bourn gets one rbi every 3.5 games which would be 20 rbi. I'm not seeing much if any difference in rbi's here.
I'll give you the whitesox offense is superior to Houston's offense. However, considering we are discussing leadoff men, the real question is do both teams have solid hitters to get them home? The answer is yes for both: ramirez, quentin, dye, konerko and thome are all capable RBI men in Chicago, while Lee, Berkman, Tejada and Pence are plenty good enough in houston to get bourn a boatload of runs. So I stand by my statement that runs will be close.
Then you come to steals. Pods has not tried to run as much as bourn. Pods had 6 steal attempts in may, 11 in june and 5 so far in july. Bourn had 7 attempts in april, 12 in may, 13 in june, and 10 in July. Unless Pods starts running more, Bourn will have a significant edge in steals in the 2nd half. Plus since we determined the white sox offense is better, wouldn't you expect bourn tries to steal more bags because the astros look to manufacture more runs than the white sox?
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by raek » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:50 pm 
