I did not include guys with any major league service time. I did include prospects from the 2009 Amateur Draft. What do you guys think? Who is too high? Too low? Missing? With your comments I hope to expand to a top 50 sometime this week.
1 Jason Heyward ATL – OF 2 Steven Strasburg WAS – SP 3 Jesus Montero NYY – C 4 Buster Posey SF – C 5 Mike Stanton FLA – OF 6 Carlos Santana CLE – C 7 Justin Smoak TEX – 1B 8 Jarrod Parker ARI – SP 9 Desmond Jennings TB – OF 10 Dominic Brown PHI – OF 11 Pedro Alvarez PIT – 3B 12 Logan Morrison FLA – 1B 13 Martin Perez TEX – SP 14 Madison Bumgarner SF – SP 15 Hector Rondon CLE – SP 16 Brett Wallace OAK – 3B 17 Christian Friedrich COL – SP 18 Jordan Lyles HOU – SP 19 Mike Taylor PHI – OF 20 Carlos Carrasco CLE – SP 21 Yonder Alonso CIN – 1B 22 Tim Beckham TB – SS 23 Jake Arrieta BAL – SP 24 Freddie Freeman ATL – 1B 25 Michael Saunders SEA – OF 26 Tim Alderson SF – SP 27 Dustin Ackley SEA – OF 28 Josh Vitters CHC – 3B 29 Casey Kelly BOS – SP 30 Daniel Hudson CHW – SP 31 Matt Moore TB – SP 32 Jaff Decker SD – OF 33 Lars Anderson BOS – 1B 34 Nick Weglarz CLE – OF 35 Jason Castro HOU – C 36 Ben Revere MIN – OF 37 Jason Knapp CLE – SP 38 Mike Moustakas KC – 3B 39 Tyler Flowers CHW – C 40 Brett Lawrie BAL – 2B 41 Kyle Drabeck PHI – SP 42 Austin Jackson NYY – OF 43 Ethan Martin LAD – SP 44 Jemile Weeks OAK – 2B 45 Derek Norris WAS – C
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You need to correct Jordan Lyles, he plays for Houston. As far as the rankings go I see two possibly three players that are probably a little too high on your rankings, Rondon, Weeks and possibly Lyles, but who knows prospects are prospects and only the future will tell us how they play out. I will say Rondon has posted silly numbers and more importantly they have gotten better at each stop.
Thanks for the rankings, I love looking at these things.
oddmanout7 wrote:1 Steven Strasburg WAS – SP -- Can't really argue but I'll take a few guys who have already been successfully in the pros over him right now. 2 Justin Smoak TEX – 1B 3 Jason Heyward ATL – OF 4 Chris Tillman BAL – SP 5 Jesus Montero NYY – C 6 Brian Matusz BAL – SP -- I have him behind Bumgarner and Parker 7 Mike Stanton FLA – OF 8 Carlos Santana CLE – C -- 10-15 spots higher than I have him. 9 Buster Posey SF – C -- He's my #1 catcher and a top 5 overall guy for me. 10 Jarrod Parker ARI – SP 11 Pedro Alvarez PIT – 3B 12 Madison Bumgarner SF – SP -- I like him in the top 10 and a top 3 pitcher. 13 Yonder Alonso CIN – 1B 14 Desmond Jennings TB – OF 15 Dustin Ackley SEA – OF -- Quite a bit too high...good hitter but not sure the power/speed potential is high enough to put him over alot of guys. 16 Dominic Brown PHI – OF -- Good potential but I wouldn't put him in my top 25 17 Tim Alderson SF – SP 18 Mike Taylor PHI – OF -- Same as Brown 19 Logan Morrison FLA – 1B 20 Hector Rondon CLE – SP 21 Jordan Lyles HOU – SP 22 Michael Saunders SEA – OF 23 Wade Davis TB – SP -- His control and declining K rate concern me....I don't have him in my top 40 24 Jhouyls Chacin COL – SP 25 Neftali Feliz TEX – SP -- Bullpen guys don't make my top 40. 26 Jason Castro HOU – C -- He's definately turning the corner this year but I wouldn't put him this high. 27 Tim Beckham TB – SS -- His potential alone would put him in my top 20...not much higher though. 28 Brett Wallace STL – 3B 29 Christian Friedrich COL – SP 30 Jake Arrieta BAL – SP 31 Nick Weglarz BAL – OF -- Too high 32 Carlos Carrasco PHI – SP 33 Lonnie Chisenhall CLE – 3B 34 Kyle Drabeck PHI – SP 35 Josh Vitters CHC – 3B 36 Lars Anderson BOS – 1B 37 Casey Kelly BOS – SP 38 Matt Moore TB – SP 39 Ben Revere MIN – OF -- It's hard for me to put speed only guys in the top 40. 40 Freddie Freeman ATL – 1B
Anyway, solid list....there are at least 20 more guys that could make a case in the top 40.
Madison Bumgarner is an interesting case. He is young for the league (19) but he's putting up 6.5(H/9) 0.3(HR/9) 2.9(BB/9) 6.9(K/9) in AA in 62ip. His ERA, WHIP and Win/Loss record are all impressive, but his Ks have dropped off, so he drops a bit in my ranks.
Carlos Santana is another guy I see vary a lot. .264/.397/.496 with 15Hr in 280ab in AA. What impresses me more is that in his minor league career, he has walked more than he has K'd. A catcher with patience and power is very interesting to me.
I really like Buster Posey, but I just want to see how he will do in moving from A+ to AAA. He put up a crazy .326/.428/.540 with 13HR in 291ab, and walked as much as he K'd. He is a definite top 10 guy for me, but I think he might struggle a bit in skipping AA.
Brian Matusz is a guy who has really moved up the ranks for me. He put up 7.6(H/9) 0.7(HR/9) 2.8(BB/9) 10.1(K/9) in 66ip in A+. In AA he has made the transition much better than Bumgarner (albeit at being 3 years older) with 6.3(H/9) 0.3(HR/9) 1.7(BB/9) 10.1(K/9) in 33ip in AA. Bumgarner has the higher upside due to his age, but I think Matusz is more polished and less likely to fizzle out.
Dustin Ackley I had a difficult time gauging. He is a very talented hitter but I am having problems trying to slot him as all we have to go off of is his college numbers which were crazy good. It will be hard to see what he can do until he faces pro ball.
Wade Davis is a guy I have never been too fond of, but every list I have seen thus far has him ranked fairly high, so I just figure that they know something that I dont which is quite possible as I only go off of the scouting reports of others.
Tim Beckham is all potential, but little results. .273/.327/.398 with 4HR 7SB 8CS in 319ab in A ball just doesn't do much for me. to be honest, I was never really all that excited about the kid, but only time will tell.
Nick Weglarz is 21 in AA ball. .243/.389/.464 which is made a bit better after you look at his .267BABIP which is low when compared to the .323BABIP that he posted in A+ the year before. Nick is another guy who has great patience, walking as much as he Ks, and hitting for modest power with 13Hr in 267ab. You may see a trend here, as I am a sucker for prospect with discipline and power, which is a fairly rare combo. He is a big dude at 6'3" 245lb, so it is likely he will add even more power as he continues to develop.
Ben Revere is a ranking based purely off of his speed. With a line of .312/.373/.385 in 343ab in A+ as a 21 year old is not bad, but what is enticing are the 33SB. Also, he walks as much as he Ks (28BB-27Ks).
i think you had Feliz right the first time through at 25- i personally i have him in my top 20 his FB is tops in the minors, he is only in the bullpen right now to expedite his rise to the majors out of the bullpen- the Rangers still plan to use him as a starter. Pedro Alverez is out of my top 15 large K rates not a big fan.
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AEMRICH wrote:i think you had Feliz right the first time through at 25- i personally i have him in my top 20 his FB is tops in the minors, he is only in the bullpen right now to expedite his rise to the majors out of the bullpen- the Rangers still plan to use him as a starter. Pedro Alverez is out of my top 15 large K rates not a big fan.
From what I've read, he may stick in the bullpen as his control has improved since moving there. The Rangers may pull a Joba, letting him pitch relief for a year or two, than transitioning him to a starting role, but as of right now, he seemed tagged as a future closer. Something that may impact his ranking is a trade. His name has been mentioned in trade talks for Roy Halladay, so its something worth noting, as TOR may prefer him as a SP.