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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby ayebatter » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:25 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:
That and billingsly



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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:18 pm

ayebatter wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:
That and billingsly



Hater. :^


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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby mweir145 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:30 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:1 run games. The NL is really underperforming their Pythagorean record. :-D

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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby DVauthrin » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:36 pm

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Zimmerman or sandoval not starting over wright cost the game as either easily makes the throw that he put in the dirt.


Singling out that one play is unfair. I could counter by saying starting Pujols at 1b cost the NL the game with his first inning error(0-3 at the plate as well). Or Ryan Braun taking his sweet time to retrieve Mauer's double was the downfall of the NL. Let's not forget Carl Crawford robbing Brad Hawpe. Plus, there was Justin Upton's "route" to Granderson's shot that turned a double into a triple. Which allowed Adam Jones to drive in the tying run with a sac fly off heath bell. Speaking of Bell, you could say he cost the NL the game by throwing Jones multiple high fastballs on 0-2 when a sac fly gives the AL the lead.


Yes but pujols actually deserved to be the starting 1b as he's the best player in baseball, wright did not.


Of course Pujols deserved to start. That was not the point though. You singled out one play/player as the reason the NL lost the game. I countered by proving you could point to many other plays that cost the NL the game.
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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:09 pm

You forgot to mention the fact that Lincecum forgot to cover first on Pujols nice snag, allowing Hamilton to make it to first easily.
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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby Bwanna » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:11 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:You forgot to mention the fact that Lincecum forgot to cover first on Pujols nice snag, allowing Hamilton to make it to first easily.

I really don't think Lincecum forgot. From the replay I saw, he was just in a foot race with Hamilton, and there was no way a throw would have gotten him. Lincecum looked like he took off toward first as soon as he could (although, I could be wrong about that.)
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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:19 am

Bwanna wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:You forgot to mention the fact that Lincecum forgot to cover first on Pujols nice snag, allowing Hamilton to make it to first easily.

I really don't think Lincecum forgot. From the replay I saw, he was just in a foot race with Hamilton, and there was no way a throw would have gotten him. Lincecum looked like he took off toward first as soon as he could (although, I could be wrong about that.)


yup, from the replay i saw it seemed like tim covered and either hamilton just beat him to the bag or hanley double clutched and couldnt make a throw.
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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:26 am

DVauthrin wrote:Of course Pujols deserved to start. That was not the point though. You singled out one play/player as the reason the NL lost the game. I countered by proving you could point to many other plays that cost the NL the game.


the point is that i don't think wright should have started over either pablo or zimmerman, when combining both offensive and defensive metrics wright probably shouldnt have even been in the game.
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Re: All-Star Game - 7-14-2009

Postby DVauthrin » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:46 am

GiantsFan14 wrote:
DVauthrin wrote:Of course Pujols deserved to start. That was not the point though. You singled out one play/player as the reason the NL lost the game. I countered by proving you could point to many other plays that cost the NL the game.


the point is that i don't think wright should have started over either pablo or zimmerman, when combining both offensive and defensive metrics wright probably shouldnt have even been in the game.


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